Motoport gear crash tested at 70 mph

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by crashmaster, Sep 19, 2009.

  1. decodent

    decodent CyberGypsy

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    Seems like there's a flaw in the statement "they do great in high speed, but not so good in low speed".

    I mean, WTF ... the OP was doing 70 mph when he first went off, right? Except for the gonzos out there, I'd think that qualifies as "high speed". Well, by the time he's slid along for a 100+ feet, he'd be ENTERING into what we might call "low speed" (maybe 35 mph?).

    In affect, he's doing both a "high speed" and "low speed", because at some point you're going to slow down.

    It'd be like saying, "my rain gear keeps me dry when it's pouring, windy and a hurricane outside. But it doesn't keep me dry when it's sprinkling." I mean, huh? :huh

    I tell ya ... on a separate note, this is an impressive post. Thanks for taking the time to post it. And very, very cool that you're basically ok. Launching off at 70mph on coarse pavement, and he walks away from it. Not only that, his gear is still in reasonably good condition.

    I'm pretty heavily invested in Stich now (Darien Light jacket and regular pants). I LOVE the functionality of Stich's gear, and I haven't read anything leading me to believe Motoport's stuff matches those qualities in Stich gear.

    But when it comes to sliding down the pavement at 70mph, it's obvious this kevlar stuff is working.

    Plus, even though Motoport might not win any fashion awards, it still looks a whole lot better than Stich. Seems like it costs about the same, too.

    I'm going to give it a serious look the next time I'm buying gear. Heck, I might have to justify a trip down the coast to SoCal and check it out.

    Again ... wow ... thanks for taking the time to post this. As was also said, these reports of real life crashes are the single best source of info you're gonna find anywhere ...
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  2. crashmaster

    crashmaster ow, my balls!

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    Thanks. I thought there might be just a couple folks interested in my crash test dummy stunt. Emphasis on dummy. :rofl

    I'm not a guy that gets caught up in brand loyalty, but I have to make an exception for the Motoport stuff. A lot of high end riding gear out there may be just fine, however I now know first hand how well the Motoport stuff saved my ass, so I figure that I will stick with it.

    I'm happy so many of you found my experience useful, but I dont intend to do any more protective gear testing for you FF's.:rofl
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  3. Tricepilot

    Tricepilot Bailando Con Las Estrellas Super Moderator Super Supporter

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    There used to be quite a wait for Wayne's gear. He's hired a bunch of people and the second jacket I ordered came in a few days. :thumb
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  4. Bbasso

    Bbasso my name is Rob

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    I too have Sidi boots, Chargers. I'll never wear anything less on street or dirt.

    glad you got through that off with min damage.
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  5. rickypanecatyl

    rickypanecatyl SE Asia adventure tours

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    CrashMaster -

    What are the motoport gloves like re flexibility? How easy is it to bend your fingers in them etc? Just wondering if they were more user friendly than the really thick (but protective) full on racing gloves.
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  6. crashmaster

    crashmaster ow, my balls!

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    I'll give you a short rundown of the pros and cons, but as I see it.

    Why I like the gloves better than leather racing gloves:

    flexible, a bit more than the thick leather IMO
    very comfy for my hands
    breath very well (huge bonus for desert riding)
    thin enough I can work a camera, GPS while wearing them
    tougher than leather (my right hand ws sliding on the pavement and you saw the pic of the gloves)


    Cons:

    if you hands get sweaty in really hot conditions, 100* F plus, the interior liner all sweaty makes them a bit of pain to take off and put on quickly.

    They breath so well. This is a negative in cold temps only IMO. They are fine down to about 50* F without grip heaters on your bike. Any cooler than that, you will want grip heaters or overmitts.

    Like I said, its my preference only. But, I like them enough to ditch my leather KTM racing gloves.


    However, all said and done, I like them better than leather for sure,
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  7. Rusty the Scoob

    Rusty the Scoob Commuter

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    Huge thanks for your post and pics! And I'm very glad that you're ok!
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  8. push_bars

    push_bars Been here awhile

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    I have a full suit of motoport gear... the kevlar ultra II pants and the marathon jacket...

    had a slow (approx 20-30mph) get off a couple weeks ago via a low slide (rear tire hit some oil and slid around while leaning coming out of a turn) ...

    first off, I had no scrapes, scratches or bruises... the bike went down hard enough to tweak the passenger peg mount pretty good so there was enough of an impact to know that the gear works... that said it did put a couple small tear holes in it, one the size of a nickle on the cuff and another below the armor on my shin.

    in the end, the stretch kevlar makes a very comfortable suit and I am happy with it but I would probably see if I could get the air mesh fabric put on the forearms/elbows since it looks like it can take some more abuse.
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  9. fish3006

    fish3006 Been here awhile

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    one word: wow.
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  10. VaderSS

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    Thanks for this. Makes me feel even better about my gear.
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  11. Cycletroll

    Cycletroll Catastrophe Specialist

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    I have a pair of Motoport police pants. I've biffed twice in them (both on dirt) including a tumble in very rocky terrrain at about 40-45mph. Totally unscathed and pretty much zero damage to the pants. I was wearing a BMW Santiago jacket both times and it worked super as well. I'm pretty convinced the BMW Dynatec is pretty stout stuff and I think we can see the Motoport Kevlar is excellent. The thigh padding in the Motoport is really an injury saver when you tumble in a get off.
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  12. Xeraux

    Xeraux Archvillain

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    A bullet-proof kevlar vest will protect you from a bullet, but it's not as good against a knife.

    So saying the kevlar stuff works better at higher speeds than lower speeds makes sense to me.
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  13. Asphalt Assault

    Asphalt Assault Been here awhile

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    If anyone is on the fence about Motoport, my advice is to just go for it. By far the best investment I have ever made.
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  14. CopaMundial

    CopaMundial Wow, that broke easy

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    Yeah... except in the Moto example the thing hitting it is the same (the ground). So rather than comparing low vs high speed to bullet vs knife it would be more accurate to compare the effectiveness of the vest to a bullet vs really slow bullet.

    At any rate, I think that it's been clarified that those claims were talking about Motoport gear circa 1988. No way anyone would say that their current gear provides anything less than excellent protection.
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  15. decodent

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    Agreed. Or a high speed knife vs. low speed knife.

    Hey Xeraux ... ya got some kevlar high-viz gear you'd like to donate for testing? You don't have to wear it.:rofl <input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><!--Session data--><input onclick="jsCall();" id="jsProxy" type="hidden"><input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><!--Session data--><input onclick="jsCall();" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">
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  16. mchasal

    mchasal Mostly Upright

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    Clearly Wayne was using a Holtzman Device back then ;)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holtzman_effect
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  17. super8mm

    super8mm Been here awhile

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    Glad you are ok crashmaster after that get off.

    I have been luck and not tested mine in 2 1/2 years like you did. they are bulky but then in the Tx summers they let a lot of air through :D
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  18. harley1550

    harley1550 Touring Rider

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    Crashmaster: Thank you for taking the time to report on the gear. Very much appreciated, particularly since I wear the mesh waist length jacket with zipper to pants and mesh pants. I also wear the Cycleport Kevlar gloves you had on. Thank you and I'm glad you came out of that crash unscathed. Coming out of it was only because of good decisions you had made.

    I had a similar wreck two years ago, but not as much asphalt, and after cleaning off my gear it looked like new! The bike was totaled but the gear was perfect! I LOVE the Cycleport gear! Yes LOVE! I tell folks that it is the best purchase I have ever made in motorcycling. Not just in gear but the BEST PURCHASE I have ever made in my motorcycling life.

    Best to you my friend and thanks again. Mike
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  19. BCinMD

    BCinMD Been here awhile

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    Great report on the performance of your gear...and glad you came away in such good shape.

    I'd like to check out the Motoport product line in more detail, but am having a lot of trouble with their web site. Anyone visit the site recently? http://www.motoport.com
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  20. Ko

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    apparently they're changing providers so the website is down. Hope that is not for long...
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