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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by vtwin, Apr 15, 2018.
Yep, I did, no luck.
Well guess what, I only need one more! I found one!
Well, glad I didn't give up. I used a powerful light and it caught a glimpse of sparkle in a crack in my garage floor. It was the missing needle bearing.
Tomorrow, i hope to reinstall the right front suspension. Also, I spoke to the disc brake vendor Jim Turner and he's willing to make new brake hoses for me and is planning on shipping them out to me today! Great customer service! I look forward to getting them, as once the front end is done and brakes bled and working, I can actually drive it for the first time.
I rarely go down to the basement , but I found out down there. RIP buddy.
Tomorrow I plan on installing the rotor and caliper on this side.
Man, you're killing it!
The Turner kit is in on the right side, just waiting for the new hoses to complete.
Drums are a PITA— 1. The ones on the M715 are slightly out-of-round, which makes proper adjustment impossible resulting brakes that have to be pumped once to work well. 2. New brake drums— even used ones in good condition— are impossible to find for both the 715 and the IH. I’ve heard good drums for a 1310 can run $1000 each.
Modern disk drakes RULE.
Any chance you can get them machined?
That is such an unusual front suspension combination. Obviously it worked, but just a strange way for Stude to get there.
Harry had some M37 drums turned and they came back worse than when he brought them in. I don’t want to risk that.
One pump isn’t a big deal— I can’t go that fast anyway.
Funny, but Turner uses late 60's Mustang rotors and S10 4x4 calipers. Some people on the Studebaker forum complain he's using outdated rotors . Well, there sure a lot of Mustangs still running around, in fact, probably out numbering Studebakers. I don't think they will stop manufacturing rotors for them.
Joe, weird thing is the bottom of the king pin rides on an o ring and the surface of the lower support, no bearing or washer. When I thought about it I realized all the tension is on the upper half where the thrust bearing is.
...and I’m guessing that “outdated” brake system is orders of magnitude better than the drums it replaced.
Folks may refer to 1960s disc brakes as outdated, but compared to drums, they are a world of improvement. For more than 20 years now, the street rod crowd was all about the Mustang II front suspension and brakes and it wasn’t until recently that the Crown Vic front swap was even conceived.
With the huge availability of retired P71 police cars, I’m surprised the swap took so long to catch on. The Ford brakes on them were adequate for police service and fading would seldom be an issue for street rods and daily drivers, plus there is rack and pinion steering.
Sure, none of this matters for your Stude though.
One exception that I have experience with are the drum brakes on an Alfa Giulietta: the drums are aluminum with a steel braking surface and angled fins along the outer diameter. They occupy almost ALL of the space within the 15” wheel, leaving maybe 1/4” clearance, and have 2”+-wide shoes giving a swept area wayyy bigger than either of those far heavier trucks I mentioned. They were phenomenal on my ‘61.
One thing about drum brakes working in their favor is all braking force is acting on the area of greatest leverage: the outermost perimeter of the braking surface.
Self energizing drums work pretty well as long as they can cool down. My 1969 Cutlass had drums all around, but brake fade was pretty bad on some of the mountain roads I drove on. I even went to metallic shoes and it still didn't instill confidence in repeated hard braking. Chris, your Alfa must have been older as my 71 GTV had discs all around.
Porsche had drums, big aluminum ones, at all corners. My ‘62 356B was the last of the breed. The 356C ‘64-65 had discs all around and the difference in drivability was amazing. The B I drove with much focus and anticipation whereas the C basically drove like a modern (but slow ) car.
‘61. Rust free. Go ahead, ask me if I’m glad I sold it.
I regret selling my Alfa as well.