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My new 2008 F650GS (twin) is here!

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by blackie, May 10, 2008.

  1. JRWooden

    JRWooden Homeless motorcycle vagabond ... and ... loving it

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    Thanks Gord!

    I like the looks of those more than the others I have seen.
    I think they will add enough "lift" for me and are still short enough that I don't have to mess with getting longer cables.

    Jim
  2. blackie

    blackie Been here awhile

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    Good things come in spades!

    Finally the service toolkit I ordered in May :huh arrived . Quality bit of kit. Very interesting telescoping handle to fit all those various bits and heads. Has a mini torch too!
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    At the same time my touring windscreen arrived the day before and I spent 30 mins switching over...at 7am in 5 deg C... I couldn't wait to try it but also because I wanted to see how well it works in deflecting the morning chill during my commute!!
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    Some notes. Well made. Took me a while to figure out how to remove the expanding nuts from the original bodywork mounts on the fairing. Windblast to the chest is now gone. Screen now directs air towards helmet, creating more noise. BUT the most noticeable bit, the top of the screen shakes when the bike is idling, damned distracting, forget the piss cup, this thing rule when it comes to jiggling...:eek1

    And finally a pic of the screw-on clamp used to (heopfully) make sure the hose stays in place.... :gerg (no, this is not Elvie's pic.....)
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  3. Big Paul

    Big Paul Adventurer

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    This is Mrs Bigpaul

    Hi Blackie

    Could you please give me some advice, I'm currently awaiting delivery of my new F650 twin and deciding what luggage to purchase.
    The BMW boxes are currently leading the race, but what do you really think of yours?
    How easy are they removed and what hardwear do they leave behind?
    On my old F650 I had givi luggage fitted which just left a small tubluar frame behind which could hardly be seen. Bigpaul has a R1150GS and it has nice clean lines when the boxes are not fitted.

    Thanks
    Michelle (Mrs Bigpaul)
  4. RobTheRigger

    RobTheRigger Killing threads here since 2008

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    Guy at work was looking over my shoulder at the site, asking about the Bimmer, etc. In two differant conversations he asked if I was getting forward controls and "leather saddlebags." :huh :rofl
  5. PuraVida

    PuraVida *

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    Hi Michelle,

    I've had the BMW Vario sidecases for a few months now and overall I'm very happy with them. They're well-designed and solid (as I discovered in a recent low-speed getoff). They don't claim to be waterproof, but they nearly are. I had them out in torrential rain at highway speed for over an hour a few days ago, and only one of them had a tiny trickle and a drop of water at the rear. I thought the size-changing versatility was gimmicky when I ordered them, but now I love it and keep the cases on the bike all the time. Being able to change up is invaluable in the city. They'll easily hold your helmet, gloves and jacket while you go do your thing. Attaching/detaching the cases couldn't be easier - you can do it one-handed once you get the knack. The mounting hardware replaces the existing grab bar. It's a little beefier and has one mounting knob on each side. I'll put a photo up a little later. The side cases form a great platform atop which you strap camping gear, etc. This is why I chose not to do a top-case, preferring the flexibility and larger volume of a dry sac instead.

    There are a few things about the cases that aren't great: Each one holds shut with two hooks that seem only moderately solid to me, so I wouldn't test the burst pressure of the system. Also, after a few thousand kilometers of riding with gear compression-strapped on top of them, the top seems to have deformed slightly and now I sometimes have to wiggle them closed. My biggest peeve about them is the removable little rubber "feet" on each one, two to a side. When you set the cases down and then pick them up again, they will almost certainly fall off if you don't pick the case straight up off the floor (no twisting, bumping, etc). You'll know you've lost a foot because the case will now tip over every time you set it down. Consider glue or ask your dealer for a bag of the things.

    That's about it. There are too many moving parts to make it reliable on an epic journey, but for the city and shorter trips they're great. Hope that's helpful.

  6. blackie

    blackie Been here awhile

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    Hi Michelle,
    I really like the flexibility of the Vario cases ability to expand for more capacity when I need it and they are lockable and fairly sturdy. The other thing I like is the way to bags are integrated into the looks of the rest of the bike. Here they are fully expanded.
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    As I'm not planning to do any serious offroading but more for touring purposes the varios suits me fine.

    My digi cam decided to give up on me but here are some pics from UKGser to give you an idea of the Vario mounts. They are pretty neat and don't look very obstrusive when the bags are off the bike. There is the addition of the elongated bar that you see next to the exhaust (there is another one on other side) and the extra knob on the passenger grab rail.

    Hope this helps.
    Cheers
    Ben

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    (Pics borrorwed from UKGSer)
  7. gordo5

    gordo5 Roadkill

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    I think Blackie and PureVida have done a good job describing those bags.

    If you go with them I'd suggest you let the dealership install those things. It's difficult to explain without pics, but the lower mount bar at the back has a flang on it that has to go up though a spot in the wheel well (you can see where it bolts up when you remove the seat) and it is NOT an easy fit by any stretch. I got two of my biggest, strongest friends :gdog to help and we just couldn't get the blasted thing in quite far enough to bolt it up. :knary

    In the end I had to give up and let BMW do it. The mechanic said he had a collection of pry bars that he used for such jobs.... would have liked to have seen them.
  8. R.J.

    R.J. split personality

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    I had no problem adjusting to the left / right /cancel turn signals on my 650 GS. :D Driving the car, however, is another issue. Can anyone tell me why, when I try to signal right, the windshield wipers keep coming on?:dunno
  9. blackie

    blackie Been here awhile

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    :jack LOL
  10. blackie

    blackie Been here awhile

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    So have had the bike for awhile now and I've been tinkling with the farkles I wanted. I think its more or less where I want it now: :freaky

    Before:
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    Now (saddlebags are at home):
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    Whats next I wonder? :D
  11. jessehere

    jessehere Ridin'

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    Yo Blackie, Can that $windscreen brace$ support a GPS?
  12. JRWooden

    JRWooden Homeless motorcycle vagabond ... and ... loving it

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    Radiator guard?

    Touratech guard to convert bobble-head-urine-sampler to black?

    Mirror Extenders?

    NOx

    Flux capacitor?

    Some eye-candy in a bikini?

    One of those stuffed hands coming out of the top case in the back? :rofl

    Ok that's it I'm cut off.............
  13. blackie

    blackie Been here awhile

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    Yes its strong enough
    No I dont think there is enough room as the windscreen sweeps back but a special bracket may be needed for it to work
  14. blackie

    blackie Been here awhile

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    Woooooh thats quite the list there, ok I'm scouring the web for those now...:lol3
  15. marmota

    marmota Adventurer

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    I've had my bike for just over 40days. I bought it in Canada and will ride it down to FL and back to Montreal, currently in Atlanta stranded for the gas thing.

    6000Kms already on the clock and I'm sad to say I just dropped the bike in some lousy terrain in some waterfalls south VA almost getting into tennessee when coming to a stop. TWICE! hence both bags suffered some damage. I dropped it on the right side while coming to a stop in a parking lot that seemed to be covered with little rocks but it was plain dumb sand underneath. I put out the side stand and proceeded to pick it up only to realize it would sink right on and fall over to the other side. It just feels plain stupid to tell you this.

    Dont get me wrong. the bags seem just great and do their job but they will not hold very well if you drop the bike. On the right side the to elements that support it underneath bent (so my right bag) wobbles a bit if I move it around -doesnt seem to be a problem while riding though- the left side you can barely see the scratches but it cracked. i have been monitoring the crack for over a week now and it doesnt seem to get any bigger, but... they are not as sturdy as I thought theyd be. When I buy another battery charger for my camera ill send some pics, i seem to ahve left mine somewhere between Connecticut and wash DC.

    I payed full price on those bags for convenience and lack of options but it you can wait for other systems to be available I would hold my money for a while.

    Regarding the rest of the bike, Its just a wonderful piece of machinery!

    cheers
  16. nat_han

    nat_han 2 Wheelers By Choice.. =]

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    hey blackie,

    can share what crashbars you mounted on your f650gs that's black in colour? are those from hepco becker?

    thanks
  17. jessehere

    jessehere Ridin'

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    Got me thinking....How about a rattle can paint job and a masking tape window? gets rid of the piss cup comments:lol3
  18. jessehere

    jessehere Ridin'

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    Whats up with the gas thing?\

    I am holding out for the jesse bags
    8" boxes - 68L total capacity and 33" wide when mounted
    10" boxes - 90L total capacity and 37" wide when mounted
  19. gordo5

    gordo5 Roadkill

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    The support underneath has a steel bar on the bike and a support brace (for lack of a better desc) fastened to the bag. If it's the brace that's off, I think that's by design. There are two screws inside the bag that hold that brace on so all you have to do is slacken them, re-align them to the steel bar they rest on, and torque 'em back down. Just a thought... Sorry to hear about the left bag though.

    I hope you have better luck for the rest of your ride and maybe an electric vest for that return trip to Montreal!
  20. blackie

    blackie Been here awhile

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    Yep those are the H&B ones