NASCAR Fans check in. (Haters welcome)

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  1. wxwax

    wxwax Excited Member

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    The cars were not that different and they had raced there before.

    Wonder how Bridgestone managed to get it right and all of their cars raced the full distance. :brow
  2. kscyclone

    kscyclone Hell yea I'm ready

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    They were trying to go faster than Bridgestone. Just didn't work out. :rofl

    Happens to everyone that tries to go fast. Even the big boys.
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    Michelin left F1 at the end of 2006. The 2005 US GP was the one where they had tire issues. Their decision to leave was because the FIA wanted to go with a single tire manufacturer.
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    wxwax Excited Member

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    F1 doesn't test tires at almost every track they use.
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    Unless you work for Michelin, and I'm pretty sure you don't, you don't know all that went into that decision.

    Google that.
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    Unforgiveable for the worldwide show that is F1, and Michelin heard all about. Really hurt their rep.
  7. Thraan

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    Bridgestone and Michelin used different constuction methods. Bridgestone specifically tailored their tires to Ferrari. Michelin were manufacturing for multiple teams.

    Like I said, sometimes they get it wrong.
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    That must be why the other Bridgestone teams were also able to complete the full race, without holding back.
  9. kscyclone

    kscyclone Hell yea I'm ready

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    Agreed. It cost them a lot of money, and lost them a fair amount of good will. One of the times I agreed with the FIA for holding them to the rules. I was actually a bit surprised.

    At the end of the day, they were trying to go fast, and they brought the wrong tire.
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    Those two other teams were also-rans that filled the last four slots on the grid and ran at best 3-4 seconds off the pace.
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    :dunno
  12. SgtMike

    SgtMike facebook.com/mikeraces

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    There are a couple F1 drivers in NASCAR - that's enough with the F1 chit chat - hit up the F1 thread already.



    NASCAR meeting with Team Owners and Drivers to discuss COT type car in Nationwide Series - this is truly the end of "traditional" top tier stock car racing...

    I'll miss the last of the old series, hope they open up to technology with their new era.
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    Human Ills Useful Idiom

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    I'm sure the team owners desperately want NASCAR to run a COT in the Nationwide series, especially since they've cut back on testing.
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    Emphasizes the importance of the team, even in a spec series like Sprint Cup. Montoya was a fading but excellent F1 driver when he came over. Has been mostly mediocre since his arrival.

    One of my favorite open wheel drivers, Scott Pruett, got screwed by being on a weak team that eventually dropped him.

    So despite all the standardization in NASCAR, rich teams still get better results.
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    The team is as important if not more important than the driver on an oval because the setup of the car is so critical. On a road course a good driver can overcome a poor setup to a certain extent. Not so on an oval.
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    I was at Daytona in the early 90's when Scott won a IROC race in the old Dodge Avengers... he outdrove them on a SS - great driver in my book:deal .
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    Human Ills Useful Idiom

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    I think Montoya has been a bit better than mediocre. Put him in a Hendricks or Roush ride and he'd be in it.
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    :clap I got to see him race in CART at Gateway (St. Louis.)
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    :nod That's what I'm saying. He's a better driver than his results show. Despite all the standardization in Sprint Cup, the rich teams still manage to turn out faster cars than the poorer teams.
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    Has there been any more rumors about the Nationwide COT being based on Mustangs, Camaros and Challangers?