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nealo's and Reduke's lightweight ADV bike builds

Discussion in 'Australia' started by nealo, Sep 15, 2020.

  1. nealo

    nealo Fantasizes over orange things

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    I've threatened @Reduke with starting this thread for the the last week after we decided to "have a squiz" up the Canning Stock Route on the way back from Karijini
    ......fully loaded @T and a 990 aren't the bikes to do this on we discovered, though we did get up to the Granites at Well 2A...hard work on a big bike though!!!

    After getting the hell out of Wiluna and camping N of Sandstone, we started discussing lighter options so it will be a "walk in the park"...oh gday there @Aussie Digger :ksteve

    So its time to pull my finger out and sell the DR and decide on a bike

    701LR
    $20k for the bare bike...great fuel range, fuel pumps sound a bit how ya goin though

    500EXC
    @Reduke will probably completely dis-own me ...bung an Acerbis tank on...work out how to carry extra fuel etc etc, can be had at a reasonable price for 3 yrs old with min km and hours

    CRF450L
    Honda reliability..yadda yadda yadda, Nomad tank slightly bigger than what you can get for an EXC, good subframe, though would have to find a used version as they're discontinued in Aus...pricing pretty damn good

    Should be plenty of time to plan and build with Covid restrictions keeping these remote communities closed for the moment

    Stay tuned.......
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  2. PomInAus

    PomInAus Been here awhile

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    Rebel X have just released a pretty good looking Adv Kit for the 450L
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  3. Dr AT

    Dr AT Long timer

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    You're selling a D(r)onkey to buy a thoroughbred? To do the canning? :clap Life's too short for rational thinking.:clap

    But...about that " walk in the park" .....invest in some good boots ?
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  4. saltyD

    saltyD Been here awhile

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    PR7 ?
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  5. AUSSIEADV

    AUSSIEADV 2wo left foots

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    I cant understand why anyone would choose a CRF450 over a 500EXC for adventure work.

    Go into ‘thumpers’ and look at the amount of EXC’s that have been successfully converted and used for adventure travel.

    https://advrider.com/f/threads/adventurizing-a-ktm-500exc-for-rtw-riding.1369978/

    https://advrider.com/f/threads/adventure-bike-builds-under-400-lbs.1333329/page-80#post-40847809
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  6. richo360

    richo360 Long timer

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    If you're looking at an exc 500, dont discount a 450. Same everything, a bit less grunt, and a bit better fuel economy. 15 litre tank will get you around 220- 250kms. And generally a bit cheaper on the 2nd hand market too.
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  7. AUSSIEADV

    AUSSIEADV 2wo left foots

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    Actually, good points Richo. Dont sniff at the 450.
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  8. 0405canvet

    0405canvet Long timer Supporter

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    Resale boys. 500’s sell quicker!
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  9. Dr AT

    Dr AT Long timer

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    Or her fatter sister :deal

    nb I'm not serios , but mostly because I want to see the ktm 450 build thread

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  10. richo360

    richo360 Long timer

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    I recently put a 12 litre tank on the 6 days, does that help? lol Only really looking to get a reliable 150km out of it for a sand/wimmera loop though as well as its usual single trail enduro work, not looking to turn it into an adv rig.

    Just re-read any existing 500exc adv build thread and visualise 450 stickers on it..... :)
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  11. BygDaddee

    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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    Theres certainly more second handers coming up now that they sold a few more

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    this guy and a couple of others have some good info they have been putting together in use, reliability, and farkles

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  12. richo360

    richo360 Long timer

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    11 litre ' big' tank still won't get you far.... aren't they 5 speed ?
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  13. PomInAus

    PomInAus Been here awhile

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    Nomad do a 20L tank and it’s a 6 speed.
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  14. waldecker

    waldecker Been here awhile

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    I think inmate Safariberg had this brief pretty much nailed with his Huski 501 build that he rode to the current Canning record-he actually sold it here a while ago, wonder whether the current owner is on ADV rider....
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  15. outbackflyer

    outbackflyer Of.

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    E2898D98-9264-4BA3-9895-1E4328EA2D47.jpeg Can I suggest considering an older model 701( longer suspension than the LR) and no electrical rider aids, and with a rade 6 litre tank under the seat it’s 19 litres in bare form. So you “only” have to carry an additional 25 litres to your first fuel at the community near well 32. The 701 has a greater load carrying capability such as pannier racks if you want that option, and with Cush drive they are much more comfortable on the long corrugated roads either side of the sand ride., having said that, I’m building up this 501 for the same trip in 2021, A0D85C0F-4339-4869-9309-181028F07A96.jpeg
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  16. benzo

    benzo Been here awhile

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    Just felt a lot smoother, quieter and better suited to the road to me. Reliability didn't enter the thought process. Having said that I'd much prefer the 500 for general trail riding and I'll probably get one for the wife as an adv bike because its lighter and won't be scraping the ground when its lowered.
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  17. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    I haven't tried them both, but when I was new-bike shopping and asked the questions the general opinion was that the 500 is much easier to ride than the 450 for extended periods.

    I love mine.:raabia
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  18. richo360

    richo360 Long timer

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    The 5hungy is torquier, maybe a touch smoother through the range. Both are good though.
    I prefer the power delivery of the 450 for the bush though. I (sometimes) like bikes that climb the power wall as the revs build rather than grunt in big gobs right off the bottom. A few years back, many actually didnt like the 450 at all the way it came on in a hit- but it was more a fact that it was lacking off the bottom that made it seem so hard edged.
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  19. TravelDoc

    TravelDoc Day Tripper

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    For CSR you need 1. reliability 2. very good fuel range 3. light weight.
    (Yes 2 and 3 are at odds with each other)
    Comfort and low cost are helpful as well.
    Roosting up sand dunes and going real fast are fun but not so helpful with 1600km harsh terrain in front of you.
    Yes you can pre-drive the course and bury fuel dumps here and there. Good luck with problems that are likely.
    The answer: DRZ400 with 28L (~30) Safari tank. Cheap, plentiful, 500km range, fast enough, reliable as hell, comfortable enough with Seat Concepts.
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  20. richo360

    richo360 Long timer

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    I'd rather do CSR on one of these.... actually, the orange one has done it already, previous owner.
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    But probably moving away from the thread subject.
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