Neduro's Tire Changing Class

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by neduro, Aug 24, 2004.

  1. neduro

    neduro Long timer Supporter

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    Was doing a bit of that myself the other morning...

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    Luckily, there was a flat-topped stump nearby...

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  2. Max Power

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    God Bless logging. :lol3
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  3. Loadedagain

    Loadedagain making chips

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    dirtrider and i weren't thinkin about you fuckers... shit... we weren't thinkin about much... we was drunk! but we did manage to fix the flat 950 tire in mere seconds once the goddamned bead was broken... if you've never broken a 950 bead i highly recommend trying. it's an experience lemme tell you :bluduh

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  4. Loadedagain

    Loadedagain making chips

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    ps... that aint patchable.

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  5. Max Power

    Max Power Secret Agent

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    Just use a big patch. :dunno
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  6. Loadedagain

    Loadedagain making chips

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    three didn't work... but we had a half dozen spare tubes :evil

    unfortunately they were not with the bike when he got the flat. :cry

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  7. Max Power

    Max Power Secret Agent

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    Nice. :rofl
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  8. Buckster

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    Loaded, you just weren't trying.
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  9. patch29

    patch29 Surly Rider

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    Drif10 speedy tire installation video, here. This version was squished when it went to mpg1.

    If someone has some bandwidth to spare I have a larger (240x320) Quicktime version, 6.9mb PM me if you want to host it.
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  10. patch29

    patch29 Surly Rider

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    Cromag 05 tire changing station, hosted by Drif10.

    First a wounded GS.

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    Wheel Removal.

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    The Breaking of the Bead.

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    A little lube, for Dizave's tire beer was used, is that a party foul?

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    See the video above for the speedy installation method.

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    Success once we found large air compresser. :doh

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  11. DoctorIt

    DoctorIt vrooom!

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    No, actually, the sound when it finally seated itself was more like POP!!!
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  12. Gilgamesh

    Gilgamesh God-King of Ur

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    Finally decided to roll up my sleeves and put your excellent instructions to the test on my KLR.

    Previous owner had put on Maxxis 6006 - they worked well, as long as I remembered to deflate for offroad and re-flate for on road. If I ran on the street below 15 psi the felt waffely in the corners and if I ran them above 20 offroad the felt squirrely on gravel. They were also a little noisy at speed and I wanted something a little more street oriented for highway riding.

    I bought MEFO 99's but they sat in the garage for 2 months until today :)

    First - let me tell you - if you have Maxxis Tires - PAY SOMEONE ELSE TO BREAK THE BEAD at least on the rear one!

    I weigh about 270 - I stood on them - I put the kickstand on em - I pounded them with a BFH - I even tried driving over the rubber part with the wifes car - and then the truck - not even a hint of popping that bead off...

    It finally took a ramp properly positioned and my 3/4 ton Dodge Ram - I had to place the ramp - then drive up onto it - twice - for each side!! Holy crap those sidewalls were stiff!

    FINALLY - We have bead break!

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    After that it was gravy - after spending over 2 hours just trying to break the bead on the old rear tire - it took less than 35 mins to do all the rest - mounting new rear, remove & replaceing the front - (popped the bead on the front just by standing on it) and viola - all done....

    I like the new look:

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    Tnaks for the excellent step by step - I wuldna done it with out you :p
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  13. meat popsicle

    meat popsicle Ignostic

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    Found by searching for a recommeded tire from these fellas:
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98839&page=5
    :bow I thought they might have a good opinion. :evil

    They recommeded the Mefo Stone Master, this list of tire for the Honda Transalp came up:
    http://www.transalp.de/technik/reifen/uebersicht.php#mefo

    I always thought it would be great to have a dedicated tire thread, but I already have one hobby (:rolleyes) and hoped someone else might bite. :deal

    Jerome has a nice table on his site (reposted around) for the LC4, and with combined knowledge and resources such as the one above might lead to a very useful thread.

    Anyone steppin' up? :ear
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  14. dazdconfsd

    dazdconfsd Been here awhile

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    That chain adjuster isn't on there right :huh
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  15. meat popsicle

    meat popsicle Ignostic

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    Redirect from an inapropriate thread:

    How does it compare to the Mefo StoneMaster? :ear
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  16. ErrinV

    ErrinV D Boon!

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    Thanks for this thread Neduro. I did the rear tonight on my 640. Took me about 4 hours. Kicked my ass. Didn't even think I'd be able to finish it, but I learned alot doing it and will do the front last night. Probably shouldn't have started it so late in the day in the winter. Was wishing for some of that Cali sunshine to heat it up. I'm beat and and I can honestly say that I've had my ass kicked by the Baja. The Michelin Baja.

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  17. Two Dot

    Two Dot Been here awhile

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    Errin, Can't wait to hear more about this. It sounds like a REAL adventure...

    CONGRATS on your Baja adventure!!!!
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  18. ErrinV

    ErrinV D Boon!

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    So I attempted the front today. I was able to change it within an hour, however when I filled it with air i realized that I punctured the tube so I had to do it over. Then I get it fixed and take both the front and the rear to the gas station because I couldn't get my sparrow to fit. Something's wrong with the cap. So while at the gas station I realize that not only is the bead not seated properly on the front, I had punctured the tube in the rear the night before. Damn. So end up reseating the front, and then redoing the rear. Only now, with all this experience I get them both done in an hour. :clap So then I go back to gas station and pump them up and you guessed it. IT WORKED!!!!:clap :clap :clap Go home and mount them up and rode it down the street. Now I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that the air is still in there in the morning.

    So I ended up doing 1 tire change, 2 tube changes and reseating a tire today. Plus I used up my spare tubes so I'll have to get new ones tomorrow. Yesterday I only did one rear in 4 hours, so I feel much better about doing it now. Changing the tire yesterday kicked my ass becausing I was using too much force, but tonight I got the hang of it and it wasn't that difficult. The proper technique helps out tremendously. That reminds me, I need an air compressor.

    Many thanks for this thread Ned.

    Errin
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  19. dieter von hexhead

    dieter von hexhead I made a doodie...

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    Quite simply the "Citizen Kane" of tire changing threads.....






    .....thanks Ned!
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  20. eastCOeric

    eastCOeric Adventure Cruiser

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    HI Ned, I know I'm way late on this, but here's a Q:
    In the pic where you're starting to put on the new tire:
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    ...I see the "balancing dot" near the top of the pic. Isn't that supposed to be aligned with the valve stem? Would it be better to align it with the rimlock? Or do you just not worry too much about balance?

    I managed to change the tube on my son's CRF50, pinching a tube in the process, but the second time went better! I've never changed a tire on a full-size motorcycle, but having read your post, I'll give it a try when it's time for new tires on my bike... Thanks!