New, FI, Air Cooled Honda CRF250F

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by FoggRider, Nov 3, 2018.

  1. EastBoundAndDown

    EastBoundAndDown Ron - 300XC-W DR650 T1050SE

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    So which is it most like? 200 230 or 250? It seems the power of an XR250 but a 230 otherwise, with EFI. Kind of a bummer it has just 9 inches travel but great for a rider who is 5'6
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  2. Bitingdog

    Bitingdog That's not my dog

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    Good for wives and 14 year old boys Screenshot_20181025-203627.png
    Or Dad and three monkeys
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  3. Bultaco206

    Bultaco206 Back-to-back motos suck Supporter

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    Looks like you need to answer some e-mails.
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  4. Bitingdog

    Bitingdog That's not my dog

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  5. lamotovita

    lamotovita DAMN SNOWBIRD!

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    Wheelbase is much longer than 230, maybe even longer than XR250.
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  6. RideFreak

    RideFreak Torque Jockey

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    Don't get hung on the 9" it's only a trail bike.

    Had they given it 11-12" it's doubtful it'd sell because the seat height would be too tall for most of the intended audience which are kids transitioning from a 150, the wife or an adult beginner. Half of any group is wrapped up in suspension travel and the other half complains about the tall seat height, specs will only tell you half the story.
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  7. mcnut

    mcnut Long timer

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    I kind of see the new model as an off-road only Yamaha XT250.

    Bruce
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  8. Fishfund

    Fishfund Been here awhile

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    I see it more as a new XR250. I'm fine with that. It's much bigger size wise than the 230F. Indeed I agree the 230F was an updated XR200. The XR200 and XR250 were much different machines.
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  9. madmac333

    madmac333 Adventurer

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    This might be the bike to replace my trusty old xr250r. Or at least a great trail bike with e-start to add to the garage. Perfect lazy old man bike, in my opinion.
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  10. brucifer

    brucifer Long timer

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    So, has anyone seen one up close and personal yet?
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  11. redneckK20

    redneckK20 Been here awhile

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    I'm pretty sure they won't be in showrooms till early next year, I think we just got availability to order them.
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    ramz Professional Trail Rider Supporter

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  13. Yinzer Moto

    Yinzer Moto aka: trailer Rails Supporter

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    This guy is getting along pretty well on the little girls bike CRF250R. He passes a few people on KTMs, it looks really steep in places.

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  14. FoggRider

    FoggRider Been here awhile

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    Wow, he makes it look easy on that thing. He is able to get both feet down at any given moment.
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  15. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades...

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    Maybe off road, but it would be really cool if one of the manufacturers got enough courage to stick a 7 speed in one of the dual sport 250s. How nice would it be to have a lower first gear than a 1T smaller sprocket could give you, yet still have as high or higher top gear for the road than your stock countershaft has? I can tell you from experience of riding a 7 speed, it is incredible to have a walking speed 1st gearwith a triple digit 7th gear. I rode a Hercules 250GS 7 speed enduro, I believe it was a 1976 model, with a Sachs engine which was the maker of the 100-125 Penton engines along with numerous other European bikes, like the Monarch and DKW. Quick start off the line and row the gear box - talk about fun!

    I'd seriously consider trading off to get a 7 speed dual sport if they made it. It would transform a bike like the CRF250L Rally, giving it seriously better small bore adventure bike capability for more long distance travel while still maintaining that single track capability.

    I know it likely will never happen... but then again I figured the CRF450L wasn't likely either.
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  16. EastBoundAndDown

    EastBoundAndDown Ron - 300XC-W DR650 T1050SE

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    6 well spaced gears is plenty. A 250 should have a bit of revs afterall at 65mph.
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  17. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades...

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    But have you ever ridden a 7 speed? Just sayin' I have and it didn't leave me looking for another gear at either end. It would leave a bit of extra revs at 80... :wings
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  18. Yinzer Moto

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    Triple digit speeds on an air cooled 250? I would think that bike would be lucky to top 70mph.

    The transmission on my WR with 6 speeds is pretty good, I can cruise at 65 and blip it up close to 80, 1st is low enough for some singletrack. I did have to drop a tooth on the front sprocket for high altitude singletrack work but at lower altitude it works good.
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  19. dirt hokie

    dirt hokie Long timer

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    I like it. At 5-8, in the woods, I will take the ability to put a foot down over suspension travel any day. But I am not about to sell my XR400 for one. Now do the FI and e-start treatment to the XR 400, and I am in.
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  20. valvecrusher

    valvecrusher tractus pro pensio™

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    My '86 XL250R would do that,(in cafe' tuck mode w/ 235lbs of me) with some XRR crossover mods....barely smoothed/ported intake, XR pipe/muffler, stock displacement, jetted correctly

    although drum fr/rr brakes,
    the Walmart bicycle suspension,
    the frame flex,
    and the Ritcher Scale Vibrations coming through the bars numbing each arm...
    is NOT fun.

    The RFVC Dual Carb sounded nice! with the opened intake box.....
    a LOUD roar!
    [​IMG]


    I figured 29-31hp, and 18-21 torques off of it...85mpg in this tune......
    it was 130mpg when it got here....
    would barely stumble out of it's own way..


    It made me want a dualcarb XL350R until i realized how ridiculously rare parts would be,
    and for a bike that is Daily Ridden,
    you are gonna need parts,
    especially if you are 30 years vintage,

    NLA, OOS and commonly SOL.



    ( could not figure out how to post a video from PB, anyone help...plz PM)
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