New Thumper: SWM Superdual 650

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by tangerine, Jan 15, 2015.

  1. cyclopathic

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    Euro5? Can you get 2020?
  2. ceevu

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    Decompressor works with a spring, and i remember someone else had similar problems reported in cafehusky or somewhere... Point is to lean bike to other side,And gravity helps get that small concave part out. I believe similar system is used in smaller redhead huskies too. (500?) Maybe spring is broken ,or its just sticking and needs cleaning. Mine was cured with cleaning.
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  3. heilong

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    I see 2020 701 LRs on mobile.de, including new ones from dealers. So you're right they exist. Just not sure what's happening in 2021.
    Price is about 11k EUR and then it'd need that Nomad ADV kit for another 1500-2000 EUR, to be comparable to the stock Super Dual X. I mean the luggage rack and the windscreen, primarily.
  4. cyclopathic

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    I don't think Nomad kit fits LR and IMO it is not necessary, if I got the bike I would get something like 21bros Giant Loop knockoff and universal cruiser windshield for ~$60.. Barkbusters.. OEM lights are good and KTM switched to LED IIRC

    Yeah Superdual is bargain no doubt comparing to LR no question.
  5. heilong

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    I know Giant Loop but didn't know 21bros. Looks nice and well priced. They call these bags "croissants", hilarious but makes total sense.
    On a crazy off-road trip in Thailand our Thai guide had Giant Loop "croissant" on his KLX125 (riding better than any of us, though), at night we were camping in the jungle and it turned out that among other stuff he had a giant fish stashed in that bag. Like 1 m long one. Good grilling!

    Well I think I should chill out and wait till I have a chance to visit some showrooms and have look at SWM, AJP and the LR...
    Thanks a lot for your help, cyclopathic.

    Gene
  6. Snowy

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    Not the decompressor spring.

    Stand down, slow cranks but will fire. If you're persistent you can get it to start before the battery goes flat.

    Stand up, spins quick and fires straight up.

    Defies all logic.

    Before I jumpered the clutch wiring, I found that if you stalled it in traffic, it slow cranked until you could get it into neutral. Which was harldy an issue at all....until I stalled it in traffic. For a Thumper...it don't thump real good.

    I advised my son that fuel injection was not a bad thing, when he was looking to buy this thing. He just stares at me and raises an eyebrow now when we discuss it. Italian electronics...who would have thunk it?
  7. panchogarrancho

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    I also found that it easier to start the bike in neutral than in gear
  8. cyclopathic

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    Top off clutch? Maybe it isn't disengaging completely?
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  9. panchogarrancho

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    That how it feels like,but no issues with the clutch otherwise
  10. tdela11

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    This is a very novice question I realise but I started to enquire about getting the Arrow maps installed on my SWM and one of the mechanics has come back and said he'd look into it but mentioned that it would be helpful if I could send him a photo of the ECU. As a complete novice I wanted to ask where I could possible find the ECU on the Superdual and what its meant to look like?
  11. cyclopathic

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    Under the seat over top shock mount.

    Are you getting it done at SWM dealer? Have they done it before?
  12. tdela11

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    Thanks! I've enquired at a number of places which specialise in ECU mapping for motorbikes. Couldn't find an SWM dealer here in London which is a bit of a bummer. They're not a common bike here.

    Also does anyone know if there's a been a link to a detailed manual posted here? I know its meant to have detailed information on the electrical plugs on the bike and im looking to try to hook up my GPS to the bikes power source.
  13. cyclopathic

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    I would do it through dealer they will install factory Arrow map and part of the upload it recalibrates TPS. Worse case it will be a day trip for you when weather gets nicer.

    As for what hookup GPS to I posted detail info on location and type of connectors somewhere around July 2019. The connector is behind headlight good luck
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  14. tdela11

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    Thanks mate, appreciate the advice :)
  15. [Savior]

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    Hey guys!

    I just decided to purchase an almost new SD with barely any KMs in on the clock. I enjoyed the big single a lot while testriding. Too bad the weather is an absolute horror here in austria right now :lol2

    To begin with, i have one question, as the left fork seems to leak oil (which is going to be fixed before i pick up the italian beauty). If that ever happens again, I really would like to fix it myself. But even in the SWM SD spareparts catalouge the seals and their order number don't show up. Would any other 43mm seals + dust caps work? Lets say Showa? KYB? SKF?

    Have a great day and stay healty! :kumbaya
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    SKF do make seals for the Fastace forks. There was some discrepancy here on which ones they were.
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  17. cyclopathic

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    Fork is 45mm and it is Marzocchi copy.. seals should be the same

    +1 on SKF green seals and integrated shock sealheads, they are the best thing since sliced bread.

    Check for bent stanchions and scratches.. also alignment good luck.
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  18. [Savior]

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    So they indeed are 45mm? The manual says 43mm -- and 45mm on the RS650 with the Marzocchi forks. Guess I'll measure the stanchions when the bike is in my garage. But hopefully them forks will never leak again :lol2
  19. CapeG650X

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    Fastace on my bikes are 43mm dia (1.69" in the owners manual)
  20. cyclopathic

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    https://swmmotorcycles.com.au/superdual-x/
    Says 45mm FastAce but I never measured. They look very similar to Marzocchi on my XCo.