Next Stop Vietnam... Laos and Cambodia

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by 95Monster, Dec 11, 2019.

  1. Bulldog Buddy

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    Piers for construction of a high speed rail road, no doubt.
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  2. jowul

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    That Pad Thai looks really good. I had breakfast (noodle soup) at that place several times since we stayed at a hotel (Vansana) just downriver from where you stayed. If you like goat meat, grilled goat is really good in Laos. When you get to Vientiane there is an old junque boat on the Mekong, converted into a restaurant and bar, the Naga boat. it's owned by Toto (Tony Sihapanya) a nephew of my wife. If you happen to go there tell him that his Canadian Aunt Eliane Fezay (my wife) says hello. I am sure you will be well received. It's a neat place but I do not know the prices they charge.
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    In!

    I had to do a double take when I saw the title of this thread – @Sideoff and I leave next Saturday, headed that way and we plan to do a rr as well. Heading to Laos after picking up the bikes in Hanoi. We've got a month and no plans. See you somewhere on the road? Look for two XR150's loaded with Mosko gear! We'll be testing out a bunch of new bags and apparel on the trip.

    Oh, and on the xanax/jack topic.. they mix well as I recall (:
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  4. third eye

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    ^^^^awesome....if you walk into the right restaurant in the evening, be prepared to have the locals share shots of booze with you!
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  5. 95Monster

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    Aww Man! I went around Vientiane and am now east in Paksan. I would have definitely stopped in and said hi!
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    Awesome! I’m the other XR testing your gear :) my only deadline is to return the bike in Hanoi before my visa expires mid March. Currently heading south to the 1000 Islands then, hopefully, Cambodia.
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    Any issues with a quarantine and travel there?
  8. LewisNClark

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    Your Laos pictures of bomb craters caught my attention. The below picture is of craters made from B-52 bombs. I was in the gunner seat in a chopper in 1971 when picture was taken. Munitions not dropped during a mission were often dropped in remote areas in VN, Laos and Cambodia. Safer to drop than to land with several tons of bombs hanging off our wings. The below picture is in VN and today most craters are overgrown with brush and full of water. Not positive, but I'm pretty sure the road at the bottom is the infamous Ho Chi Minh Trail.

    All the craters below are 30 to 50 feet across. If anyone goes to the VN Memorial Website all the KIA's (Casualties) have their place of death listed and hundreds of US Gi's were killed in Laos, where we were not supposed to be. Dropping a bomb in a marshy swampy area often left them unexploded, thus UXO's.

    One bomb (for clearing air craft runways) had a 20 to 30 foot rod that was extracted when launched, causing the detonation 20' to 30" above the ground and would pretty easily clear a football field in a couple seconds. Rome Plows were brought in to clean things up.

    For those who asked: A Rome Plow was a large Caterpillar Bulldozer fitted with huge role cage around the cockpit surrounded with steel plates, to semi protect the operator from gunfire. Probably hundreds of Rome Plows in Nam. Name? A Caterpillar dealer in "Rome", Georgia came up with the proposal to build a "buillet-proof gage. They bid on the major modification and received an exclusive contract to build the Rome Plows for the US Army for delivery to Nam.

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    UXO = UneXploded Ordinance
    FYI - Link to the Museum you are at.

    https://www.luangprabang-laos.com/Visit-UXO-Laos-center

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    If there is a next time I suggest not to miss Vientiane. Despite all the developments it's still a very authentic Lao city. The Champasak region was interesting for us with the ruins of the Wat Phu with its Kmer ruins pre-dating those of Ankor in Cambodia by several centuries. Champasak was one of the kingdoms in Laos, besides those of Luang Prabang and Vientiane.
  10. WileyRTW

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    Just to add, I was stopped outside Saigon/HCMC, and the cops there are known to be corrupt, so if you go south you def want the international license. They did check it, but they only wanted money so not sure if it was helpful. I recommend it more in the event of an accident as 95Monster mentioned, as you will have problems without it.

    Na Meo is also where I crossed with the moto last year, you mention there is no recent info....you are just missing the best reports! Ok to be fair my reports never contain any helpful info lol.

    Since you mention Cambodia is on the list, please take your bike over, that is my 1 regret. It involves illegally smuggling it in via boat, my kind of adventure, that was the only reason I was going to take the bike into Cambodia, but then I got bored and sold it before getting past Vientiane.
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    Why? Did they change anything? We drove in 2012 with our own, German registred, bike from Laos over to Camodia without any hussle... From Laos to Cambodia with the original Blue Paper (title) in hand should not be a problem I think....?
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    Now most reports say they either cannot get in to Cambodia from Laos at all, or worse they let you out of Laos into no mans land, but not into Cambodia, forcing you to leave the bike behind. These reports are from 2015-present so I am sure it has changed from your trip. There are a minority of reports were people get it in illegally. While I was mostly kidding to 95Monster, I do not recommend anyone try it....but I was def going to do it just for the adventure story.

    I do not know the exact details, and do not want to derail this great thread, so here is what I wrote in my report last year:
    "Honestly, since I have already seen Angkor Wat, I will admit my sole reason for wanting to go to Cambodia with the bike are the corrupt border officials. It is completely legal to take a Vietnamese plated bike from Vietnam into Cambodia, but as there is only 1 land border crossing from Laos to Cambodia, the corrupt officials will let people enter the free zone and then deny the bike, forcing them to sell it cheaply or just ditch it all together. Well F them, I wasn't going to play that game. Turns out you can illegally smuggle bikes into Cambodia, yes more adventure! But I didn't do that ...and I certainly don't recommend you do it as you will be entering a country illegally. For those wondering, all you need to do is get down South to Don Det island, ask around and you can find someone who will take you and the bike, ILLEGALLY, into Cambodia via boat. You leave the bike on a farm and he brings you back to Laos to then cross the border and get your passport exit and entry stamps, the bike is no longer part of the equation. Then you just hitchhike back to your bike in Cambodia. As there is no corresponding paperwork for it in Cambodia, not going to lie, I wish I had done it, my resume could use "Illegal Moto Smuggler" to catch HRs eye in my future job searches."
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    I’m a week or so away from crossing the Laos- Cambodia border so we’ll just have to see. But RTWRoxie just crossed yesterday. It can be done but the fees are all over the place. I don’t want to jinx it so let’s just leave it be until I get there. Meanwhile...
    Could this be my long lost childhood hero LB Sambo? 52A346A5-5BDD-4FCC-BF34-2BE91C698705.jpeg He was censored by the PC crowd so today’s kids will never know about his epic battle with the tiger or his Mom’s delicious pancakes. A300FDCB-2C61-4277-AFC7-1A7C2BF6FEC7.jpeg This boat is not a shipwreck, it’s actually operational. 1511428C-9A87-413F-956F-2F37EA10421C.jpeg Uncle Ho is even here, looking towards Thailand. 8F5FFB48-8E1E-4ED9-8F96-22E9B210B265.jpeg In LA they call it patina ABE6CC04-EA9E-40F9-9966-1DE5AB06C4BD.jpeg Home for the night in Savannakhet, 7DE193B1-98EA-46F1-8699-88A79F98BCB3.jpeg I’m just thinking it may be time to upgrade the tower. 82FE1CE0-65AC-4D14-98A6-3F65F9D45B75.jpeg
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    From Savannakhet, I continued to Pakse, a place I thought was pretty cool. It had a nice old French style section where I checked into what was once a grand hotel. The view across the street where the hostels were 77C253A9-B4FF-411D-9C95-C56B916CFA15.jpeg Rooftop bar watching the clouds C1310A8F-E65B-40AE-AE8D-E0C558C2D61E.jpeg Sunset towards the Mekong 04243B0A-1D94-4831-B6B4-88B45F53A43F.jpeg Well, okay, it’s happy hour 653B0FA9-B827-4D81-A6C3-2C2AED9190FE.jpeg
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    From Pakse, there’s this thing called the Bolaven Loop. I got the map, which said to budget 3-4 days. People come here, rent a bike, and set out on a 3 or 4 day motorcycle trip in flip flops :))) Who am I to judge? The loop took me 4 hours. First disappointment was it was paved. FEF9A12C-2F43-42B2-A8CE-A9AD30E17060.jpeg Second was the coffee tours ( I drink tea...and whiskey) 50BA0F9F-1A79-4BAA-B2F8-372AA75F2BA0.jpeg I’d planned my first overnight stop at an elephant sanctuary. I got there before noon to find that the elephants were chained to trees with a 2 meter leash. In the afternoon they walk them down to the river to ‘bathe’ so the tourists can take photos, Fuck that! Fuck them. Back on the bike AE2BA517-C7E5-4E5E-8C84-96610D43B726.jpeg After that, there where a lot of waterfalls, hikes and coffee plantations so I just kept riding. 759F8BA3-47B0-4125-9F13-C3ED64280256.jpeg Eventually I made it back to the old hotel in time for rooftop happy hour. 21EDCB72-A18B-43CF-84B8-BA224E283D16.jpeg 3E3BD6DD-A3D7-41EF-B846-0B9C71C59657.jpeg F953B79F-D3E2-457B-AB3A-FE2342464B3B.jpeg

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    Most places in Laos where I have seen elephants are crappy "roadside zoos". in 2008 I toured for three days the Phou Khao Khouay mountain area in an old Land Rover Defender 110 with local friends. It was an area where you still could encounter elephants in the wild. The next best place I saw was in the northern Golden Triangle area (Nam Ha region) close to Luang Namtha where elephants are still used to work in the forested mountains.
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    From Pakse, it’s 145 km south to the ferry in Nakasong. I fueled up and headed out, forgetting to get the oil changed! Oops. Not much chance of finding a Honda dealer in the 4000 Islands. 6CF0F167-3801-49DC-8273-E8D045EE43CA.jpeg

    Cassavas, on their way to becoming Costco chips 455E8731-0547-4781-AFBE-006F97DBF3DA.jpeg

    In Nakasong, I went to the ticket office for the ferry where the guy waived me away and pointed down the street. Okay then. As I started riding people along the way pointed in the direction of the beach. Down on the sandbar was a small catamaran so I rode down the sand dune to the waters edge hoping I was doing the right thing cause backtracking was going to be tough.
    Yup. Up and on to the boat 3EFAA973-60D7-4035-8CFD-B43AC21CF671.jpeg No tie downs, no life jackets and it was early enough that the Captain was mostly sober. 3178EB92-DF54-4BE0-A50B-BB2BCDB88DCD.jpeg Off we go to Don Det, I think. 61F29D08-D055-40A5-BF3B-770D7925F0CD.jpeg After a 10 minute ride, I’m deposited on the Island and make a loop, scouting for a place to stay. 84FFC8B3-2998-4E51-A2F2-55C5128A6E01.jpeg This one smells like hippies FA0471F2-14C0-45F1-AF1D-CCBC035AF67C.jpeg ahh, okay, this’ll do. 543F231B-9734-4AE2-A35C-07202331E90D.jpeg
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    I guess it'll have to do!
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    This morning, I headed south to Don Khon, it’s connected by an old railway bridge. Did a loop around the island and settled into a place on the Mekong.
    Preferred method of transport C4A07C08-F4F1-4DF7-A2C8-DD5F9526E3F1.jpeg My place for tonight. No pool but okay AC and slooow inter web. 0B5E6D05-3071-48C5-8345-4BA2BBF21DD9.jpeg For my Honda friends
    649DFE78-77B7-46CC-AADD-67C1D1D9E895.jpeg Sunset on the Mekong. E0D7B045-8B46-4EB3-92E0-7E4C46FE2F64.jpeg 3F8FB3DA-2544-49C0-8885-9D2187944320.jpeg F11176F9-E04B-4B1B-8D7B-65A6EA3A4A4B.jpeg and for my Porsche friends. If only this came in an “Murican “ size :)
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