NHSTA Opens Investigation into BMW Final Drive Failures

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by rdcyclist, Feb 3, 2012.

  1. WeazyBuddha

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    Are you saying the NHSTA has opened an investigation on FD failures before?
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  2. Kawidad

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  3. roarin calhoun

    roarin calhoun Been here awhile

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    WAAAY too late for me. I had enough & now have a Tenere. Golly,it's a neeto bike.
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  4. witchdoctor575

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    couple of observations. I've been stalking this area because I'd like to get on a GSA in about 6 months and all these threads kinda put me off. BUT.... all these failures are what percentage of total paralever designs currently operating flawlessly around the world? most likely a smaller percentage I would imagine. I purchased a hayabusa a few years back and read about all the 2nd gear failures due to a poor design. But I never experienced it. Those I knew who did were pushing their machines to extremes.

    Point is, anything made by man has potential to fail... except Hondas,lol
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  5. monkeydad

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    I did sell my Honda ST.... Mechanically perfect, but perfectly soul-less. That thing had as much personality as a lamp. Not that mechanical failures equate 'character', I'm not a Brit bike fan:lol3, but for sure this GS is one big hoot and puts a grin on my face where after I rode my ST1300 I'd be like "Meh, okay, well, what's for diner".

    My GS (and before that a VSTrom 1000) makes me relive the last ride for days and I long for the next ride, every time.

    I find excuses to take my GS to the dang store for milk, whereas my ST1300 gathered dust. Like a pretty girl that just doesn't have "it", versus the slightly homey girl that for some reason just fires people up.
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  6. Mav

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  7. Bill 310

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  8. scrannel

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    You mean the guys who produced 42,000 + bikes recalled for cracking frames which actually can't be fixed? BMW needs to pass out the same cool aide Honda sells.

    This is going to be a big disappointment for the BMW guys and their rear ends. The numbers are far lower than imagined and well within what one would expect for "chance" (this has been calculated on another thread...) and BMW has already upgraded their FD starting, I believe, some where in the 2009 - 2010 production.

    Just to put it in perspective: other issues "servo-brake failures", gas gauge "strips "etc, are so incredibly low that it's only important on BMW forums.
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  9. Schlug

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    I'm with both of you.

    I'm thinking.... 145 over 10 years? 14.5 failures a year out of how many thousands of BMW's sold?

    I'm thinking.... not very impressive. But, you know, good luck and all.
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  10. ausfahrt

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  11. tagesk

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    Sir,
    I own two Honda Transalps.
    Even though thy roll considerably less per year than the GS, I have a stack of bills from the Honda dealer which does not, by any means, give me any confidence in Honda.
    When I complain, everybody says "Well, it was just the X that broke; fix it and ride on. It is Honda - reliable".
    For quite a few X's.

    When I look at the details and the solutions, the workmanship on the BMW is superior.
    For all I know, I own the two worst Transalps in the world, and the Transalp might even be the worst bike Honda has ever made.
    But I have two, and they suck (quality-vise; they are nice to ride!).

    [TaSK]
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  12. Schlug

    Schlug JockeyfullofBourbon

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    Well, the clutch baskets on all the V-Strom 1000s from 2002 and 2003 were complete hogshyte. By the time the 'chudder' was so bad that I had to change it, other Strom riders at the Stromtrooper rally were riding up to me and saying, "what IS that?"

    When I changed it out, I had 24,000 miles on it IIRC, and Suzuki were on their 3rd iteration. It would cost considerable more to swap a Suzuki clutch basket at the dealer than it would to rebuild a final drive at BMW.
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  13. MANXMAN

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    Could you tell me which big trailie bike I could purchase at a Honda dealership to replace my GS?
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  14. Bill 310

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    Easy, just need to find a Honda/Yamaha Dealership and buy a Tenere :clap
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  15. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    Off topic. BUT you can cut a hole in the firewall behind the ashtray of a Pinto and remove the camshaft without removing the cylinder head. Slides right out from the ashtray! I made a business out of used Pinto's in the early 80's.

    On Topic. Final drive failed on my 1994 R11100RSL at 94,000 miles.

    On topic. What about the clutch splines and splines on input shaft?!
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  16. Schlug

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    fixt for accuracy.
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  17. Schlug

    Schlug JockeyfullofBourbon

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    How about one that doesn't weigh 7 stone more than a GS?
    How about one with an ABS switch-- are they available from the dealer yet?
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  18. Harrington

    Harrington Been here awhile

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    I must be one of those 1%ers because my servo brakes work fine. My FD hasn't grenaded. My fuel strip works fine and none of the others items have ruined my riding enjoyment. Maybe I should worry and wring my hands more.
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  19. scooteraug02

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    It would be nice to get accurate numbers on the failures.

    I'll still keep my GSA even if I have to carry a spare final drive.
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  20. waynem

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    :clapHey Harrington, I'm with you..servo stops me like I hit a wall, fuel gauge works, and I have no play in the rear wheel, bike starts right awayl.....I love my GS!!:rofl
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