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Noob Skills (dirt) Practice Day – 22APR17

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by KaptSlo, Mar 8, 2017.

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What time should we depart AstroBurger (the ride will be about 6hrs in duration)

Poll closed Apr 21, 2017.
  1. 1. 0700

    4.5%
  2. 2. 0800

    22.7%
  3. 3. 0900

    45.5%
  4. 4. 1000

    27.3%
  1. KaptSlo

    KaptSlo In Idaho, never admit you moved from California. Supporter

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    Calling all Noobs!

    Does riding your pristine KTM1190 into a gravel parking lot give you nightmares? Did you just buy a brand new Africa Twin which you only ride to Mc Café for a breakfast burrito? Has your BMW GS never been farther offroad than the little bit of sand in the Starbucks parking lot? Or do you own a smaller DualSport bike with NO scratches on it (other than that time in the garage when you scraped it with the lawn mower)?

    Fear not. Help is just a few weeks away!

    On Saturday, April 22, 2017 starting from behind the ASTROBURGER in Kramer Junction (corner of HWY 58 & 395), the DVNR crew is sponsoring a NooB Friendly ride (Skills Practice) out to the Husky Memorial and back.

    We may also visit a few aircraft crash sites, depending on the skill level of the participants...:hmmmmm

    40654 US-395, Boron, CA 93516
    N34 59.622 W117 32.535

    This skills practice day will be appropriate for all sizes of bike and focused on noobs with at least a little dirt on their bikes. We will be helping you refine your basic off-road techniques. PLEASE NOTE: If you just got your first bike for Easter; and don’t know how to use the clutch, shift lever, or brake – attend a California Motorcyclist Safety Program class first. You really need to master the basics before you attempt to ride that new Triumph Scrambler offroad.

    Topics reviewed during this skills practice day may include:
    • Standing while riding (body position)
    • Making slow speed turns (counterweighting)
    • Front brake control (ploughing)
    • Maximum braking (oh shit!)
    • Whoops (they’re not so bad…)
    • Riding in sand (f-ing sand)
    • Hills (what goes up, must come down)
    • Trail etiquette/ethics (let's play nice)
    NOTE: This is NOT a Jimmy Lewis level ride. If you can make the water crossing at Afton Canyon, blast through Bird Canyon, or finish most of the easy ways on any organized DualSport ride in SoCal; you’re already beyond the scope of this training.

    However, if you possess mad offroad skills (or even slightly peeved offroad skills) we could sure use your help training the new folks!

    Please post up if you have any questions or you’re interested in attending; and let us know what you’re planning on riding so we can get folks grouped by bike size…

    YOU NEED a minimum of 70 miles fuel range to do this ride!

    IN LIST (as of 20APR17)

    01. KaptSlo
    02. Headstaller
    03. HBSurfDad
    04. MtnRubi
    05. Todd157K
    06. Skootz Kabootz (?)
    07. LittleBike
    08. SociallyStunted
    09. rider914
    10. Greedyg76
    11. CA Stu
    12. dunerat
    13. palada
    14. socalrc31
    15. portabill
    16. RolandC
    17. villageidiot
    18. pvt joker
    19. squr3l
    20. emmi
    21. Berserk99
    22. jawshoowa
    23. RolandC
    24. northsouth15
    25. Greedyg76
    26. Distant thunder
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  2. KaptSlo

    KaptSlo In Idaho, never admit you moved from California. Supporter

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    Stuff you need to know:

    About YOU:
    We're riding in the dirt. Even though speeds will be low, there's a good chance you're gonna fall. Therefore, appropriate gear is essential!
    Also, and this is important... It's NOT the sweep rider's responsibility to pick up your bike! You need to be able to do that yourself; at least for the first 4-5 drops.

    1. BOOTS: Actual offroad boots are HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for this event. They provide crush and twist protection not available in other forms of footwear.

    According to the book A Treatise on Surgery by American Authors: For Students and Practitioners of Surgery and Medicine, Volume 1 it takes less than 200lbs applied to the long side of a tibia or fibula, over a 4 sq. inch area, to break either bone. I'll bet your bike weighs more than that.

    A pair of O'Neal Elements are on sale everywhere for a buck and a quarter - not a high end boot, but MUCH better than street boots, hiking boots or work boots. AND, they're much cheaper than an ER visit!​

    2. HELMET: Please wear a 3/4 or full face helmet. Your 1/2 helmet needs to stay on your Harley/Indian/Metric Cruiser.

    If you're wearing a modular helmet, I'm going ask that you keep the chin bar down. I know of two recent instances where street riders were wearing modular helmets with the chin bar up; they went down and snapped their necks when the chin bar caught on the tarmac. Dirt is even more "grabby" on non-smooth surfaces than asphalt.

    If you're going to wear a street helmet, please consider wearing sunglasses/goggles as eye protection. Generally speaking, a visor/face shield doesn't work real well offroad.​

    3. PROTECTIVE GEAR: You don't need to go drop BIG BUCKS on the latest KLIM gear, but you do need to be protected.

    Sturdy trousers, MX style gloves and a chest protector or armored jacket are a must. Elbow and knee protection are something to seriously consider.

    Be sure to dress for conditions - check the weather report before you leave home. The DVNR crew will be there regardless of the weather, so don't wimp out on us!​

    4. WATER: You'll be riding a LOT. You need to stay hydrated.

    Do yourself a favor and get a hydration pack if you don't already own one. That way you can drink on the fly.

    Stopping, getting off the bike, opening up bags, backpacks, etc and taking off your helmet to drink out of a bottle of water slows down everyone's progress.​


    About your BIKE
    :
    You're going to be dropping the bike. Get over it.

    1. TIRES: Knobby tires are recommended.

    Kenda Big Blocks are fairly cheap and work well, even if they don't last too long on pavement.

    Heidenau K60's are pricey, but do well on the pavement and in the dirt (except for mud; they suck in mud).

    You can get by on 50/50 tires like the Shinko 705, but it's gonna be tough.

    Think about it this way: would you wear deck shoes to play half-court one-on-one against Lebron James?​

    2. BAGS: Leave the luggage at home!

    Those aluminum cases are great on the street, but dramatically increase the chances of a lower leg injury during a fall (and you're probably gonna fall).

    Soft bags are only slightly less hazardous.

    I got my leg pinned under a Wolfman pannier bag a couple years ago when riding the AZBDR. Had to wait for about 5 minutes (felt like an hour) before my buddies realized I was no longer sweeping the ride. No damage done (except to my pride) but I was trapped until they came back and lifted the bike off me.​

    3. SPARES: The Red Mountain OHV area isn't outer Mongolia, but it is a bit remote. Please have the following items attached securely to you or your bike:

    TIRE STUFF
    • An inner tube that fits your front wheel (will work in rear in a pinch)
    • Tire plugs (for you tubeless types)
    • Tire irons and the appropriate wrenches to remove either wheel
    • Some way to inflate your tube/tire
    • A tire pressure gauge

    TOOLS

    • 6/8/10/12/14/17mm wrenches
    • needle nose vice grips
    • screwdrivers - Philips & flat
    • allen/torx wrenches (depending on your bike)
    • knife (leatherman type tool works great)

    MISC
    • Zip ties
    • 5-50 cord
    • JB Weld (this stuff is the bomb)
    • tow strap
    • some way to light a fire
    • a flashlight
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  3. MtnRubi

    MtnRubi Been here awhile

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    I'll be there, I need all the de-NooB'ing I can get.

    I can either ride out, or haul out the Van with an easy up, and other stuff if you'd like.
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  4. Yellowjacket

    Yellowjacket Long timer

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    For those of you that need gear and are having problems affording it, go to the Motowearhouse parking lot sale this Saturday. People are going to set up booths and have LOTS of used gear for sale, some like new. Motowearhouse is located at 125 Business Center Dr., Corona.

    I'll be there with District 37 newsletters and flyers on our upcoming rides. I'll also be selling some of my gear that I don't need anymore.

    Be safe riding, and I hope to see you all at Motowearhouse's sale!

    Attached Files:

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  5. KaptSlo

    KaptSlo In Idaho, never admit you moved from California. Supporter

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    Welcome! What will you be riding?
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  6. Skootz Kabootz

    Skootz Kabootz Been here awhile

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    This sounds great. I'm in. I'm perhaps not a total noob, but this looks like a great practice location with some great coaching there to help and I still have plenty to work on. Thanks!

    (Riding a Tiger 800xc)
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  7. KaptSlo

    KaptSlo In Idaho, never admit you moved from California. Supporter

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    Glad you'll be able to make it!
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  8. rider914

    rider914 Agnostic Adventurer Supporter

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    Bill - Count me IN to help if needed :deal

    -M
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  9. KaptSlo

    KaptSlo In Idaho, never admit you moved from California. Supporter

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    Thanks. Will include you on the Conversation once it gets going.
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  10. MtnRubi

    MtnRubi Been here awhile

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    I'll be on my "it's OK if I drop it KLR", and leaving the Tiger at home...

    With fresh knobs on it, of course.

    [​IMG]
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  11. NSFW

    NSFW basecamp4adv Super Supporter

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    free lunch and refreshments to all attendees.

    pls bring a hat, folding chair and pop up shelter if you have one and trucking.


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  12. socalrc31

    socalrc31 Been here awhile

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    This sound great! I'll be there. Thx Ken
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  13. dunerat

    dunerat WTF?

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    Wooooooow....I may be in now!!
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  14. headstaller

    headstaller Long timer Supporter

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    Most likely IN
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  15. KaptSlo

    KaptSlo In Idaho, never admit you moved from California. Supporter

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    Big bike or little(ish) bike?
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  16. headstaller

    headstaller Long timer Supporter

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    the "ish" :D
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  17. KaptSlo

    KaptSlo In Idaho, never admit you moved from California. Supporter

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    I'll be on the TransAlp. Brining the XRR for HBSurfDad to ride.
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  18. Todd157k

    Todd157k Long timer Supporter

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    We're going to head out there whether you need my help or not. Wifey can have a little more practice time on her little DR200, and I just like watching people fall down. Should be entertaining.

    Taking the truck. Let me know if you need me to bring anything. I'll have a popup, and a few chairs.
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  19. KaptSlo

    KaptSlo In Idaho, never admit you moved from California. Supporter

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    Thanks for the offer to assist. Will include you on conversations when they begin.
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  20. NSFW

    NSFW basecamp4adv Super Supporter

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    i haven't ridden since slugdad's memorial.

    definitely a good warm up for the noobs rally.

    bill, since there's not a lot of us, we should invite others who need some form of training that are not coming to the noobs rally.
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