Northern New England Trail (NH-ME-VT Late September/early October on a DS Anyone?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by devo2002, Jul 15, 2012.

  1. devo2002

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    To simplify planning I'm taking it out of pm and into this thread, I'm really bad at playing telephone between you ff's:lol3


    Canuman's Goods:

    I'm not linking his first track since it just gets you to his town and since we are leaving from there I'll start with this.

    Below is our day 1 with a few edits I'm yet to combine into a single gpx. We are going to scoop below Pittsburg as we may be hassled.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=313270&d=1330816511

    Here is the alternate route for a portion of day one. If you load both up you can see where we deviate from the original.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=313276&d=1330956020

    Canu did make a full alternate day 1 that combines the go around but it doesn't open for me, I'll try some more converting otherwise it will be a Topo 9 etude of sorts. He mentioned a computer wipe out so this is what we got to work with. I'm in favor of verifying and as the route can handle big ds bikes we can make side tracks or hero sections for the bigguns:wink:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=313277&d=1330970163

    And here is a clean day 2 for us.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=313272&d=1330859917

    For reference here is his thread
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=769424

    From doing some google searches it seems that while remote, it's not too far away from fuel. I put on an acerbis 4 gal. so I can get a 200 mile range. My estimations show the standard 100-120 miel tank will probably suffice, but if you already have a fuel bottle for an emergency it may come in handy. I'll be topping off so if we bring a hose we can steal some of mine.



    Accommodations

    I've been asked about what we are doing at the end of the night.....and in normal fashion I'm not sure. :rofl

    Our options are cheap hotels, campground camping, or cowboy camping as 8gv puts it. I'll let the cards fall where they may amongst who is going but I'm in favor of camping "on the lam" if we can, with the possibility of a cheap hotel stuck in the middle there on say Tuesday night.

    I haven't done too much camping in my life but what I have done has only been state campgrounds or private ones, which usually consist of 50 rv spots and some small rinky dink sites for cagers in the back. I'll admit while nice to have an outhouse and running water, I feel the sense of adventure is greatly diminished, especially when you pay $25+ (and I'd guess they would charge more like $40 for 3 of us:huh) these days for sleeping on the ground. Even state parks are high $20's.

    8gv brought up a good point which is fires while cowboy camping. My ideal is just that, some kind of meat in a bun around a fire with some whiskey:norton I'll do some research, or perhaps a FF can chip in with legality of fires not on a campground in Maine. Being a suburbanite who doesn't know much about rural life I could be completely wrong, but I'm guessing if we aren't on high ground and find a cruddy road that goes in a few miles there should be no issue. What say you?:ear

    Rubline mentioned moose hunting so I will be picking up a vest and throwing it in my bag.:deal



    Food

    I will be bringing this little guy. He is fueled with some kind of chemically white substance in tiny brick form. It can boil 2 cups in a few minutes. The burner fits inside the cup with the fuel tablets so it's pretty darns small. This and a knife spork will be my gear, although I may splurge for one of those collapsable rubber cups for whiskey/cokes :lol3

    8gv mentioned he is bringing a 16oz jetboil.

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    The above along with some instant coffee, mountain house dehyrdated meals, and Clif's energy bars/gels/shots will be all I'm bringing food wise. I'll bring a small spice kit for when we spot a local grocer and figure we can throw some beans/meat into our packs for the campfire? I'm figuring we will also be dining at the local greasy spoons for when we are just too tired to deal with it ourselves. In my experience eating greasy food while on the road tastes amazing but also makes for unpleasant bathroom trips :lol3
    What say you?:ear



    Gear

    Let's also start to discuss potential overlaps in gear and what we can pair down, i.e. do we really need 6+ tire irons and 3 tire inflators for 3 of us? I'm sure 8gv would love to pair down his setup :rofl
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  2. 8gv

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    I have decided to pair down my gear as follows:

    Remove moose antlers (rack?) from handlebars.

    That is all.:wink:

    I do have a spare two man tent I can bring if someone needs it. I don't want to tote it on my bike though.

    Im ok with all the other poundage I took on my last ride as it will give me excuses for my bad form and crashing. Besides, they're not allowed to shoot a pregnant moose right?
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    I like to camp and no hotels. I like to smell so bears will avoid me. I like to fall a sleep with a wiskey in my hand and feed mosquitos all night! I dont like hotels period, they still my bottles there! :D I will try to post pics of my bike set up and my gear if I have time tonight! In couple of days my Garmin montana coming so I will play with it but I am totally new to it, so it will take year until I can go by my self! Also waiting for 4 gal gas tank.:evil
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    Basically I have all gear to survive in the woods for a year, tools and tubes. I have bed braker and all tools for flat tires. Basic repair tools and flash lights. I dont mine carrying dobles but if you have some item you want to leave home and use mine I be happy to share it (except sleeping bag):lol3 I need to buy some JB welds and gorilla tape (I cant go out of the house without gorilla tape) This tape saved my "rear" couple of times, highly recommended!!! Also I will be using my winter bag witch is this bad boy http://www.rei.com/product/836215/sierra-designs-zissou-dridown-sleeping-bag
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    Nice setup, I'm liking the front rack in front of the headlight, I'd love to do the same but my fender comes right underneath the light unlike yours.

    Given your tools I'll probably bring all my gear in case but leave some in the car. I don't think 8gv will be leaving without weld and gorilla and I've also ordered some so I'd say don't bother buying any.

    Do you have an axe or saw? If not I'll get a small hatchet.
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    If we need to hide dead bodies I have this Swiss Army Shovel WW2 [​IMG]
    Also I do have small folding saw and small axe so dont worry about that!
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    Are we riding on trails or just clearing our own?:eek1
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    :lol3 I think we will be sticking to existing trails, unless anyone is up for it.:wink: JK, I'm a believer of leaving as little impact as possible. But, if the delorme paper maps are accurate then in some areas there aren't too many options, I'd hate to turn around because of a log.
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    There r no turning back!!!! I am taking my chain saw. :wings
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    Are you hiring landrover to tail us?
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    Just kidding ! No chain saw this time.
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    Would I be a fool to believe a dr650 would not be a decent fit? Are we talking logging and fire roads or making new trails? I have a dr650 with shinko 705s, but i also have a plated rmx 250, gasgas 250, and an older husky 510 (not sure how reliable, no problems yet but its 22 years old). And a pig gs1100 (no way in hell i would ride this) My weapon of choice would be the dr because of roadability, and actually has a weight bearing rear subframe for gear. but it ain't light and has dual sport tires on it. The rmx and gasgas are two smokers so mileage and offending others could be an issue. Anyone done any of this area to comment?

    Thanks
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    I haven't seen a single mile of this but I say bring the 650. Devo can tell you who's coming better than me but I sense we have a very diverse group of bikes. It's called adventure riding because sometimes you don't know what the adventure will be untill your in the thick of it. Plus, you could let me try your 650 as that is likely to be the next bike I buy. What's the worst that could happen?:wink:
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    The trip was plotted by Canuman on a klr650, like you he also has woods bikes so maybe? It sounds like mostly gravel and dirt with pavement as well, but the plan is to do some detours on god knows what so I'd say it depends on your dr650 pig skills? I've not done one inch of the route so I don't really know. I'd peruse the trail thread from my first post to find all the info. You are welcome to join, let us know :freaky
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    I tried loading the various files. So far I have Summit to Forks, Canaan Eustis Alt and Forks to Houlton. These work for my Garmin software. Summit to Forks Alt will not work for me. It seems to require loading a whole map rather than the tracks/waypoints only. After the warning that it may take a few hours to load it, I bailed. I'll post over on the thread Canuman started and see if he can fix it for us.
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    Devo I guess we both was looking for each other I you can see by my tread where I was looking for people and places to ride! :evil Thanks ADV God for this!!!! :clap
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    I am also playing with my new garmin montana and for me is really no luck! 8gv if you get corrected files can you post it somewhere? I will try to load them on mine gps. So far I have most advance gps and I dont know how to use it!!!:lol3
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