TD...Hmmm...I'm not interested in trying to force someone to see it my way after spelling it out many times just to get the point across to help others who it seems he doesn't give two shits about. If they don't do it the full out way it's not good enough to be called a true adventure in his world. So again, it's not worth the effort. it only goes down hill from there...I have found especially on this site. It's a well known place for trolls to sucker people in and then get them roasted while they are trying to show the other side of the coin. As for riding together I do my own thing with the guys I ride with and don't ride with new folks for an adventure after being disappointed in the past. 3 out of 5 times....when traveling with folks on an adventure especially one where you are gone for weeks if not months, it's best you click so either or all the people don't get pissed over stupid shit similar to this topic. I usually do a few trial camps with new folks now to get a good feel for them, geese this sounds very gay all of a sudden doesn't it....lol.!!!! As for doing spontaneous stuff, I'm always game as long as my health won't get destroyed over it. I have a damaged neck which hurts like a bastard after stupid shit that normally wouldn't hurt a normally fit person....but I'm still very stupid and do still do stupid shit! Two years ago at my son's house with his new pool I jumped off the balcony railing into the pool a good 20 feet down....took me a week or so to get over that shit. So, I can be adventuristic and do ride where ever I want to get to to say I've made it there or seen such a thing. But I'm done arguing over what is best for the rest of the forum on which is best to ride your own personal adventures.