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Oh no, not another "which tyres" thread!

Discussion in 'Australia' started by JMick, Sep 18, 2020.

  1. JMick

    JMick Been here awhile

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    My apologies in advance but I am indeed posting another "which tyres" enquiry. However in this instance I'm not after a mythical tyre that will perform well both on road and off while lasting forever and costing next to nothing. My daily ride is an SWM RS650 and I have a 40km each way commute that takes me close to an hour. We get a lot of rain up here and roads get pretty slippery with a combination of mould and garbage juice spilled by a never ending procession of semis that take garbage one way for sorting and processing in a giant composter and then the other way to take the remnants to go into landfill.

    I am planning on getting some wheels from the Italian factory so I can run 17" road tyres but that's not happening for a while due to COVID disruptions. In the meantime I'm having sphincter tightening moments every time it's wet (all the time lately) when the bike goes in a direction different to the one I'm trying to take it in. Soooo, what tyres do you recommend (140/80-18 rear, 90/90-21 front) that will perform well on wet and dry bitumen. I don't care if they're the world's worst tyres on dirt/gravel/mud as long as they perform well on wet bitumen. My commute is a combination of a twisty mountain road which has over 10,000 vehicle movements per day on it, congested main roads with multiple roadworks sites, congested back street rat runs, lots of filtering and less than ten minutes of uninterrupted counter-commuting on multi-lane freeway all topped off with about 2.5 metres of rain per annum.

    Your learned opinions will be valued.:ear

    Mick
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  2. BygDaddee

    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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  3. SaAdvRider99

    SaAdvRider99 Been here awhile

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    Shinko 705. Just checked don't have a 140/18 but do a 150/18
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  4. rossguzzi

    rossguzzi 990 Adv.

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    I would move interstate !
    Anywhere ! But Melbourne :hide
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  5. Traveller13

    Traveller13 Cptn. Fluffy

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    Hiedenau K60 Scouts....actually no, don't do that :p
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  6. Neonasty

    Neonasty Been here awhile

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    I do about 45km each way to work on my 701Supermoto and run Avon Trailriders.

    I live in the mountains outside of Melbourne and its a mix of twisty, mossy roads in winter and higher speed roads, with some stop start stuff too.

    It's a duel compound tyre and great on the wet roads. I get about 10,000 from a rear and maybe 15,000 from the front. I've done a bunch of gravel stuff on them too, and they hold up okay there too even though they're a 90/10 tyre.

    I'm on my second set and will get another next time
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  7. Night Falcon

    Night Falcon Structural Failure

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    TKC 70's front and rear or Perelli MT90 AT's. Hopeless off road, but you'll stick like spilled peanut butter on the couch on it.

    Just don't use any Castrol semi-synthetic oil whatever you do!!!!
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  8. Fearless Whetu

    Fearless Whetu Aussi Kiwi

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    I am really spending waaayyy to much time on here at the moment. Have to love lockdown in Melbourne....

    The trouble with these threads is that you will get many different responses and suggestions as tyres (like bikes) are a personal preference. But there are some consistencies.

    It sounds like you need a road focussed ADV tyre and I'd suggest the TKC 70. Good traction (esp in wet) doesn't equal long life usually.

    Best way, take an educated guess and try them
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  9. Bluetonguejak

    Bluetonguejak Pretend racer

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    Pirelli MT60RS

    Work great in the wet.
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  10. Dave Ward

    Dave Ward I don't even know where the box is.

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    I'll go along with that, but they wear very fast.
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  11. JMick

    JMick Been here awhile

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    Put it on my "maybe" list and then took it off as not available in 18" rear.

    Mick
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  12. tomo8r

    tomo8r Long timer

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    I've used Pirelli Trail 2s and they were fine in the wet, albeit 17" front and rear.

    You can get a 90/90-21 and a 150/70-18.

    Don't think you'll be ripping up a bull dust laden development road on them thou.
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  13. Bluetonguejak

    Bluetonguejak Pretend racer

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    My bad - meant for the 17's when you get them.
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  14. JMick

    JMick Been here awhile

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    Probably go with road pilot 5s when I get the wheels, I've got them on my road bike and am really happy with them.

    Mick
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  15. tripodtiger

    tripodtiger Off riding around on bitumen circles.

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    Don't ask Jack Miller. He never uses the correct tyres.
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  16. Chris C

    Chris C Adventurer Supporter

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    TKC 70 from me also, ran them on my 1190r when riding predominantly on the road. No issues, apart from some "scolloping" on the front after a while. Confident in the wet and "two up" riding also.
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  17. Bounty1

    Bounty1 Been here awhile

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  18. moffit virtue

    moffit virtue Japa

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    Naked GS1100gk with a 99 oswald sidecar - rear tyre = Austin 8 car tyre , 5.00 - 5.25 x 16 from excelsior of India.
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  19. Cruz

    Cruz Lost but laughing.

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    Chase up 700 Tenere owners as they seem to remove them pretty quickly and fit something else. Could be a few cheap pairs in people's garages.
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  20. JMick

    JMick Been here awhile

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    Went through 3 scouts on the back of my KLR, was pretty happy with their handling, even on wet bitumen. Apparently in the size up from what I used they have an unbroken centre strip which makes wet weather riding pretty hairy. The scouts are 100 x better than the golden tyres that came with the SWM. I suspect that the tyres have been on the bike for around 4 years as many of the RS650s sold here were new old stock that could no longer be sold in Europe due to emission regs.

    Mick
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