OT- Any pilots in Denver?

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  1. oldmanb777

    oldmanb777 Just say NO to socialism!

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    I enjoyed it too. Guess we need to do it again sometime. Makes me want to go fly again. I just don't want to make the commitment. Too many other things to deal with at the moment.
    Troy, you are absolutely right. There is a lot about riding that is similar. Was thinking about that on the way home.
    "keep the greasy side down guys" :D
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    capulin overdrive Been here awhile

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    Was pipe dreaming planes last night and one of advertisements had a ready to ride trials bike crammed in the back. Maybe a PC-12?
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    capulin overdrive Been here awhile

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    Thread drift, but what plane would you not be scared to fly from Baca County to Gunnison in the winter with 4 very fat souls at most, with not much luggage? And no cherry picking weather, would have be able to do all but the super bad days.


    I've been pipe dreaming bush planes like Aviat, C-Cub, etc. But if they can't safely do the winter hump over the divide, it would really limit what i'd use it for.

    Little bit of studying i've done, had the sober thought that an Audi R8 or Nissan GTR with a lawyer on retainer would be a better solution.
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    Well, an Aviat or a Carbon Cub only holds two people, so that’s outside your criteria list right there. Since you’re talking about going in all but the “very worst” weather, you need something with known-icing capability as well. Seems like you’re getting into King Air, Citation, or Pilatus territory. There might be some piston twins that would fit that bill, but turbine is a better bet. There are plenty of piston singles that’d have no trouble getting over the mountains; I regularly do it with four people in my Maule. It’s your weather requirements and your indication that this will be a HEAVY group of four that is limiting.
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    4 people would be maybe once a year and not a deal killer if i couldn't, as it would be two most of the time. Weather requirements would have to be met.

    Suppose i could build a pretty good grass strip, but live on a farm and would like to open a hanger and go. Get too fancy and i'd have to drive 20 miles the wrong way to a decent airstrip.

    Also 6' 5", so that's also hard to meet. So Cessna or belly panning others? Think big guys like Maule.
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    Bearhawk 4 place with an O-540 powerplant.

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    https://bearhawkaircraft.com/bearhawk-description/
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    Once you put that kind of weather in the equation, your up in the very high dollar turbine world with professional pilots, and more than one engine. How much do you want to spend to "go when I want to". And get there itis is always present. So Conquest, King Air, Merlin, Cheyenne, Citation, etc. Take the weather requirements out, and it opens up lots of nice options.
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    Exactly. Bearhawks, Maules, 180, 206, all nice planes, and none are all-weather machines. For that you need FIKI (Flight Into Known Icing) capability, and for that, you pretty much need a turbine. Now, since you wasn’t too operate off the farm and not an airport, I’d say Quest Kodiak is nice option. It’s only money, after all...

    The reality of personal aviation is that if you REALLY need to “go when you want to go”, every time, regardless of the weather, then you need a ground vehicle, not an airplane.
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    I have a ton of time in Chieftains and that airplane would have no problem doing what was hypothetically proposed. Turbocharged piston airplane with radar and great performance in ice, only burned 50 gph. Don’t see too many of those around any more unfortunately
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    Good point; I’d forgotten about the Chieftain. But is it known-icing certified?
    Still think I’d rather have a turbine vs maintaining two piston engines. Pratt PT-6 or Garrett TPE-331 also burn about 50 gph.
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    Thanks guys! I'll keep studying, but appearing fast car and a lawyer might be the best option.
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    The big piston twins will do a lot of the weather. By the time you get geared engines, and turbo's etc, it gets pretty expensive. I have had King Airs try to kill me in ice, had 737's try to kill me in ice, and 757's. So ANY airplane is susceptible to bad weather. That's where you need the discipline to wait it out, no matter what you are flying. Tomorrow is another day.
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    Interesting thoughts on a snowy day at the office. Its something I've dreamed of, but I never made the monetary leap. It certainly is a fun thought exercise.
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    Anybody else missing the Sun? Just another day riding in back. 33,000 feet somewhere over Nebraska. It was beautiful. 20190111_115352.jpeg
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    Funny. Nebraska looks the same under the clouds too.
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    No, it's much gloomier and greyer than this.
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  18. capulin overdrive

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    It's snuing outs here on de plains!
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    Just seen another pipe dream that we'll all be in car size quad copters here pretty soon, so guess i just need to wait for one of those.
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    Yeah but the batteries wont last long enough to get you anywhere, :D
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