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Overland Expo 2020 Flagstaff

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by Jill Miraflores, Dec 12, 2019.

  1. Jill Miraflores

    Jill Miraflores tierra encantada Supporter

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    I just registered to attend this, riding out on my moto from Albuquerque, NM. But now I'm looking into it further and am wondering if it is going to cater more to the 4-wheeler/bug-out van crowd? Is there a good representation of motorcycle adventurers going to this thing? Interested to hear from others who have been before.
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  2. PukaWai

    PukaWai Long timer

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    I went a couple of years ago. While there were quite a few people showing up on bikes, the event itself definitely caters to the 4-wheel crowd with lots and lots of ridiculously expensive off-road campers and trailers. A brand new GS with the entire Touratech catalog attached is chump change compared to these things. There were a few bike stuff vendors, you'd see all these in less than an hour and you could spend a bit more time watching the Rawhyde guys ride around in a circle. And there were a couple of decent presentations by RTW bikers in the evening. This says all though: they put out water bowls for dogs, but the piece of woods where they sent bikers to camp had no water. You had to go trekking quite a ways to where the trucks camped for that. After about 5 hours I had enough, was bored and went for a ride to Grand Canyon the next day. Needless to say, I won't be going back.
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  3. BIG-E

    BIG-E AKA; Mongo-E, Sexy Grande Supporter

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    ^^^This!

    If you go with a mind set of, I need a new BA tent, then go and have fun. If you just want to look around and see million dollar riggs, go. If you want to see some GS riders riding standing up looking like dorks, go.

    I had my very first and only lobster roll last year, it was Outstanding!! But it cost 20 bones! So I only had 2 and blew my Bacon money...

    But if you want to check out a cool new something, go.

    The crowds are so big and everyone IS an Adventurer!!

    In just shy of 3 hours, my neck and ears got so sunburned they started bleeding...and I had a hat on!
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  4. BELSTAFF

    BELSTAFF ADV NOMAD

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    Back in the day, it was a fun event. Celebs were approachable & put out good info, Rawhide crew had it going on it, was a small kinda personal event. Now having grown into a "rich kids event" it's no big deal, sure its fun to see crap you can't afford & shit you'll never use, but a day pass buys that & is way cheaper than the whole enchilada. Plus now that the original owners have sold to a "marketing event specialist" it's all about the money now. If you've ever been to International Motorcycle Show, you what kind of traveling circus that is & like Expo it was a fun event "back in the day."
    I would give Expo 3 to 5 more years at best before it becomes the shit show IMS is now if it isn't already----It's still fun to do but only takes a day, so come & ride Arizona, see Sedona, Grand Canyon, ride out RT 66, Monument Valley, Four Corners. Hell might as well catch Utah & 5, YES 5, National parks all within a days ride.
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  5. 2 SPOT

    2 SPOT bring the rape whistle

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    its fun to go, sure its major draw is the truck based stuff, but if you stick to only the moto specific vendors you'll miss ALOT of good stuff.

    the moto village has been growing, and past few years its been pretty darn good, but this last expo had a pretty sad showing, cudo's to the vendors that did show up. i hope its back to good this year.
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  6. RonSJC

    RonSJC Long timer Supporter

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    We set up a BDR booth for the first time this past year and showed the CABDR-South Film that was introduced by the Director, Sterling who did Q&A afterword with another of the film crew, Jon Beck. The "MotoVillage" catered toward adventure bikes, and there were some demo and ADV training opportunities. REVER set up some group rides to the surrounding hills. But, it really caters to the 4x4 overloading crowd and that dwarfs anything Moto. Having said that, lot's of cool stuff camping stuff on display, just bring a full wallet if you intend to make a purchase.
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  7. azredline

    azredline Wobbly Adventurer

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    First timer last year. Thought it was worthwhile.

    Big E got Lobster rolls. I had to distract him to poach pieces off the first one, then he graciously shared the second one. I think I got more than he did, but don't tell him...
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  8. Mordster

    Mordster Wish I was riding, doesn't matter where to

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    Rawhyde Adventure Days is the new overland for adv riders no?
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  9. apexfiend

    apexfiend Adventurer

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    It's a fun event for the most part. A day pass is more than enough, the rest of the time is great for meeting other riders and exploring northern Arizona.
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  10. WADE-O

    WADE-O Been here awhile

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    Except last year i think the Rawhyde Adv Days was like 500-600 dollars to attend which is insane.
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  11. mkitchen

    mkitchen Been here awhile

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    I noticed that the moto's were mixed in with all the other booths this year. I kind of liked it a lot better when the moto area was in it's own area. This provided a better opportunity to meet other riders. I did buy a Partner cook stove but I don't see me using that on the bike.
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  12. Mordster

    Mordster Wish I was riding, doesn't matter where to

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    website says $389. Good food, I’m going :clap
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  13. brad21

    brad21 We have a pool... and a pond.

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    I think my wife and I may be in as well this year! Looks like fun!
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  14. Reidy008

    Reidy008 I,m in if we go fast

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    I have been going up to the Expo every year from the first time they held it at Mormon Lake near Flagstaff. Usually there is a group of us that ride and camp, we spend one day at the expo and it is always fun to walk around and see all there is to see and it is vast. I always find something that I can't leave without and have found lots of camping stuff that I wouldn't have know about if I hadn't gone. I would tell anyone who enjoys the outdoors that it is worth a days visit.
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  15. Honda-50

    Honda-50 Vet Lurker

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    If you like hardware . . . GO. Several ADV vendors ply their ware there but there's plenty crossover amongst the doo-dads. Even some deals to be had on occasion.

    Its all about vehicles and overland travel. Plenty of stories to hear and stuff to gawk at. By sheer numbers, the four wheeled crowd is the majority, but it's not like motorcycles are ignored. I think the motorcycle camping area at Ft. Tuthill is better than what was available at Mormon Lakes but I kind of liked the overall venue better out of town (except for the year it snowed - wet cow pastures are . . . sticky! Anyway go. Oh yeh, day passes/camping are the way this cheapskate rolls.

    If you want something more centered on motorcycle travel, visit one of the Horizon's Unlimited travelers meetings. BTW, neither are what I'd call a riding event.

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  16. hardhat

    hardhat Been here awhile Super Supporter

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    We are riding to the Expo from Vegas (Husky 701). Plan a side trip to Mogollon Rim (1 1/2 hr SE). Anyone interested, let me know. Ive been "many" times since it started. Fun for what it is. I do 4x4 off road as well so it is interesting. Lots of cool toys. A number of vehicles that cost more than my house. Kind of like Lambo's and supermodels. Fun to look at and hang with even if it doesn't suit a useful purpose! You'd be surprised how much $ you can spend on that brand new Rubicon Jeep that you just bought because you thought it had everything you needed already on it. (Hint - it didn't!)

    Bike stuff getting bigger each year. The have a moto camping section there at the event (plus of course the Rawhydearea), but Fort Tuthil is in the middle of the Cocconino Forrest so there's LOTS of free camping around. (WAY quieter but less cool people around.) We also do at least one day of riding out around the forrest. (Again, anyone interested please reach out.) I have a couple friends in the area that Ive made over the years and its always fun to see them. Expo has a crap-load of classes and such (that you need to buy a full ticket to get in). Many are vehicle oriented (driving, tire repair and such), but lots of other stuff - first aid, various classes, etc. When ive gone the instructors have seemed pretty competent. (A wildernes first aid course given by a marine combat medic is "more interesting" than your average red cross show and tell.) In the past there have also been a lot of free classes. Ive always enjoyed it. Lots of cool stuff, and for the most part, pretty cool people. Camping areas are pretty crowded (thats why ive stayed in the forrest) but secure. The rawhyde area has been interesting, though I dont ride bikes that need winches off road. (But that's just me.)

    In my experience it has been interesting and fun. But then, I'm a 64 year-old guy that still rides motorcycles in the dirt (plus I don't play golf or watch football...)
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  17. eddyturn

    eddyturn Eternal Wannabe Supporter

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    I went this past year in my Sportsmobile and camped at the SMB village where you are given massive amounts of room to park Willy nilly in that area in the trees. The displays of all the stuff is mind boggling. You could just hotel it then do the non camping day options and see some cool shit. Moto village was not as good as in the past but maybe they will do better this year. You can then head south for at least one day ride down to the Mogollon rim as lots of fun dirt riding out there. I take my mountain bike and head out for some single track riding close by with one cool ride circling the whole event on the Soldier Trail. It is overpriced but some cool vehicles and accessories you didn’t know you needed. Guess I better send in the funds. Maybe I should trailer the GS this year and get in some rim rides as have never done those...
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  18. ArizonaEva

    ArizonaEva Adventurer

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    You're going to dig it Tankara! Hundreds of adv riders, awesome classes, and lots of moto-centric activities... the 4WD eye candy is definitely a focus of the event but the Moto Village is solid and the community is the best (I havent missed one in the past 7 years!)... and if you're the shopping type, there'll be lots of things to spend your lunch money on. See ya in Flagstaff!
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  19. ArizonaEva

    ArizonaEva Adventurer

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    Maybe it's time to give it another try Puka... and if you're not stoked on the event, I'll send you all my fave dirt to explore!
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  20. ArizonaEva

    ArizonaEva Adventurer

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    It's totally on the up and up, 2 SPOT! C'mon back this year and let's ride!
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