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Discussion in 'Australia' started by davorallyfan, Feb 20, 2007.

  1. Big Willy

    Big Willy Gen. Italia

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    Never done torque settings on spokes myself. I reckon it'd be hard unless you've got lube under the nut and in the nut to get a decent reading.

    Just tap them with the spoke spanner to get a decent sort of ring to them is what you should be aiming for.

    As all rims aren't going to be 100% true, if you manage to torque the spokes to all the same torque, you can guarantee the wheel wont spin true.
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  2. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    I lube up my nipple threads and under the head of the nipple too, but never torqued a nipple.
  3. Big Willy

    Big Willy Gen. Italia

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    And the local wheel specialist here actually advised me against it as he reckons they can come loose...sorta makes sense.

    I still lube the threads though as I'd rather them come loose than corrode in the nipples
  4. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    I use nickel antiseize and never had an issue. Except for JTR selling me HD stainless spokes and after a while, the peened over ends of the spokes in the hub fractured off. Replaced with less brittle normal spokes and all good. As a result, I wouldn't suggest stainless spokes for off road use.
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  5. Woody2627

    Woody2627 Grey Wobbler

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    Are we still discussing motorcycles here? :hmmmmm
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  6. Fuzzball

    Fuzzball Been here awhile

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    On the work (postie) bikes I grab the spokes by groups of four, between thumb and index finger and giv them a good squeeze, find it easier to feel if the spokes are getting loose, than pinging each and listening when I have the constant ringing in my ears.
    Snapped three? Four? spokes over the last decade doing this, but I recon it's better to snap them doing the morning pre-ride checks than having them go when I drop down a gutter.

    Not that we're allowed to actually do anything with the loose spokes... :bluduh

    Been about a year since I've lubed or checked the 650's spokes. Something else to add to the list for "big yearly service".
  7. thumper-darryl

    thumper-darryl Been here awhile

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    Helping my friend sort out his collection. He has 3 DR Big's. One in good running condition, and the other 2 partially taken apart for rebuild. plus a TON of spare parts. Any interest in the package? Located in Bundaberg.
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  8. kezzajohnson

    kezzajohnson kezza

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    True for used wheels but not so for brand new ones being built with brand new spokes and nipples. I am probably a bit more fussy than a mass producer of wheels but use the following method. Anti sieze on nipple threads and lube under spoke heads, roughly true the wheel first with close to an even amount of turns on the nipples (allowing for offsets were applicable) and gradually, methodically bring some tension on all spokes- checking and rechecking lateral and radial runout, and offset where applicable, throughout the process, loosening and tightening as required to maintain trueness. I then run around again systematically to bring up to torque or close to torque - no spokes tightened any further than the torque setting however, and some spokes tightened to just under torque (estimated small turn increments of the nipples and feel) to keep trueness. Then, again, painstakingly check and recheck trueness and loosen/tighten opposites to correct any deficiencies. Worked for me and I came up with less than 1.0 mm runout (checked with a dial guage) in any direction on my wheels. Funnily enough, I didn't necessarily get an even or perfect dink, donk, dink, donk around the wheel (rear wheel has different length spokes on either side, front wheel roughly same length either side and the inner/outers mostly touch each other on both wheels) but was satisfied that all spokes were properly tensioned and the wheels true and strong. Now after some kms, I just run around them with a screwdriver and listen to the ping (not a ring), which doesn't have to be even, just in a similar high(ish) range. After thousands of kms so far, the wheels have not needed any adjustment but if I was to ever get one or two that sound a bit 'off', I would try and bring them up to torque with the spoke torque wrench and if the nipple was to hit the torque setting without any movement/adjustment of the nipple, I would then tighten it by sound (ping method) to the matching (tight) other spokes on the wheel after checking runout.

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  9. NTJosh

    NTJosh Been here awhile Supporter

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    Lad's,

    Just back from a ride, 11 days..3554km's. East from Perth down to the Great Aus Bight, north up to Forrest and than the trans rail line track back to Kal, then North of kal for a few days and back to Perth and reality. Two DR's, a Tenere and a SWM. The tracks down along the Bight are terrible, limestone rock the whole way...tracks up along the rail line aren't much better. Was well looked after at Forrest, manager had a carton of beers one ice for us when we arrived, stayed in one of the old BOM houses and gave us full access to the old hangar for servicing of bikes, he then cooked us up a sensational dinner followed up by an awesome breakfast....cant recommend Stephen at Forrest enough, awesome guy:photog

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  10. MaverickAus

    MaverickAus Long timer

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    Hi,
    new to the DR, would anyone have a spare headlight bracket in good nick? I'm in Coffs Harbour NSW
  11. DIRT SQUIRTER

    DIRT SQUIRTER Bitumen is just a way of getting there!

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  12. DIRT SQUIRTER

    DIRT SQUIRTER Bitumen is just a way of getting there!

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    Any thoughts on these? Maxis M6006 anyone tried em?
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  13. CCM/GARRY

    CCM/GARRY Adventurer

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  14. TheDecepticon

    TheDecepticon Wannabe

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    ^^
    Nice, pity is isn't in July next year, would love to attend! :doh
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  15. Precis

    Precis Maladroit malcontent

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    Haven't there been about six annual DR "gatherings" already? The Musters?
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  16. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    Yep
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  17. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    I've looked at them and nearly got a back one, then looked again at the price and got what I know for the same $s, a 606 in that case.
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  18. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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  19. UncleGra

    UncleGra Road Grime

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    Reminded me of this pic, NTJ...between Trida and Ivanhoe on the east west line
    An Emu still on it's feet with a broken neck and a smashed head..very sad sight. I had to put it down. DSCN0289_Moment.jpg
  20. NTJosh

    NTJosh Been here awhile Supporter

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    Poor bugger:(
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