Oz trip planning

Discussion in 'Asia Pacific' started by tkach, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. Clay-doh

    Clay-doh Been here awhile

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  3. tkach

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    any thoughts mate?)
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    So the visa is until Jan 21, the bike will be shipped from Sydney to LA somewhere between Jan 15-21. She's got some people to see in Brisbane and apparently it has to happen before NY, that leaves it an insane rush up to Darwin-Brisbane-Sydney in roughtly 30 days. :fpalm
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  5. WayneC

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    We did a mad 30 day/12,000km trip Sydney/Darwin/Alice Springs/Adelaide/Victor Harbour & back to Sydney but that was mid winter
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  6. tkach

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    so far this is what i looks like, but it's insane given the time frame
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  7. WayneC

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    tkach,
    A couple of points, firstly the in/out of Darwin is over the same road, the road via Kakadu is more interesting so should be either in or out, secondly the run from the Gold Coast to Sydney, should be anything except Pacific Hwy, at the back of the gold coast is the ranges national park with a nice twisty road through rain forest & then there are passes & secondary roads which are far better than Pacific Hwy slightly to the west of the hwy. Once down to Wauchope the road should be Oxley Hwy linking up to Thunderbolts Way down to Gloucester, on to Singleton then Putty road coming into Sydney from the west (3 of the famous motorcycle roads)
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  8. tkach

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    and i got this awkward question regarding kangaroo, are they hoping across roads all over or is this a specific region or are they like moose here, appearing suddenly in the middle of the road...?
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  9. Woody2627

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    To do the bit between Port Augusta and Longreach that time of year is just plain stoopid. From a tourist perspective, it is miles and miles of nothing, taking up days and days, in the stinking heat. Leaving out Alice Springs and Darwin, you will be lucky to see 100 people in that whole section, and probably talk to 20. The bit going from Kakadu across to QLD can be pretty rough too I believe, not recommended for someone with limited experience. If it rains, those roads will be closed anyway. If Darwin is a must, fly there. It will be cheaper, and you will live to ride another day.
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    Thanks.
    If we're talking tarmac, what other options are there south/south-east, maybe west towards Perth?
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  11. ferals5

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    All over, only the size and type varies. As we are in drought more are likely to be trying to get a feed in the drainage ditches beside roads.
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  12. Clay-doh

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    Dangerous bastards of things.....

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  13. Gravel Seeker

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    Roos are all over, but mostly as bloated stinking roadkill. The road trains plow them down in the dark, so she mainly has to watch out for large eagles taking off when she approaches the kill.
    It's wise to park before dusk and not ride in the dark at all. Out close calls with live roos were mostly in the afternoon.
    But she also has to watch out for emu's which there are a lot of. After that are camels and cattle. But like I said - it's a bit like here where you rarely see a moose during the day but they're lurking in the ditch in the dark.
    West to Perth is at least three days of arrow straight two-lane highway across Nullarbor with no alternative return route.
    Long stretches of highway in QLD is just a single strip of asphalt in the middle of a dirt road so when she's meeting a car or 54 meter road train she will have to move over to the dirt regardless.
    She should really spend all her time in the east between Adelaide and, Brisbane IMHO. QLD is nice enough, but she's not ging to see everything anyway adn Cairns is a long way to go for nothing in particular. That's still a big area to cover. And the entire east coast all the way north is a HUUUUUGE area.
    Cutting up inland from Melbourne it still took us two weeks of riding just to get to Townsville.

    This is the exciting scenery she can expect up north NT/ QLD border region

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  14. WayneC

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    Slow down there, tkach indicated she will be sticking to the tar & the roads in areas marked on the map would all be 2 lane tar, camels round Uluru were interesting, saw a group fighting but they had no interest in coming down on the road area, my mate did not even notice them

    Re roo's, risks change between coast and arid areas, they are more frisky down on the coast & in the drought out in arid areas they wont be moving real quick at the moment. The feral pigs out west NSW were problematic in the last big drought along with the goats but I dont see too much on the map where they would be a factor, I did not see any of either round nth west qld when I went though there
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  15. zukjeff

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    Roos.
    My rule of thumb from 30+ years of experience of them living on our property is the most dangerous time for them to be on the move and near the road is when they don't make a shadow.
    Yes this usually means from dusk to dawn, but on a very overcast or rainy day they feel safe to be in the open when they have no shaddow.
    They sit by the side of a road biggrst to smallest. The big old males are smart, they wait until its safe to cross, the next biggest male and the older females start to follow without looking.. the kids then run across the road anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds later.
    So when you see a roo cross the road after the vehicle in front of you be vveerryy careful the family is likely to be following dad.
    You may think your safe as you pass a big roo that you just missed but then get collected by a smaller roo that has been running parallel to the road but now thinks it time to cross and cut back to meet the rest of the mob that crossed before you got there, jumps into the side of you.. they are dense enough to stove the whole length of a full size SUV just by rolling down the side at 60 km/h.
    I am more frightened of copping a 60 to 80 kg roo at chest height when on a bike than any traffic i have been in.

    Eagles in ourback QLD stand 30+ inches tall . If you drive toward them when one is eating road kill it will wait until you are 200m away . It jumps in the air in what you think is the last chance to get away without being hit... oh shit.. by the time it gets it's wings out and catches air it has dropped back down to road level. One big flap of the wings and it is now head height. It then picks left or right and gets away with only metres to spare. We couldn't help but duck even when in a car.
    Honk her horn as soon as she sees one.
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    Bottom pic is a tar road... and the single strip of tar/ gravel hybrid road was the main road #1 east-west QLD between Georgetown and Borroloola from memory. Might be full width tar now, but recently saw a new-ish episode of Outback Truckers from same area where there was just a single strip of tar in the middle.
    We didn't see a lot of animals up north either, at least not in the dryer areas. There were wild horses in places, but they are generally scared and run away at a distance. Think that was up NT/WA ways though.
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    Sorry, forgot to discuss with the wife.
    Your current plan is 3x too big even if she has No mechanical or person issues.

    Ride from Sydney to Melbourne to port Augusta. Truck the bike to woomera or marla. Ride the loop to the rock to kings canyon to menari loop, to alice springs.

    Then truck the bike to the douglas daily springs area and ride to to darwin.

    The bit left all the way to derby( Kimberly) deserves its own 3 to 5 week trip !

    Ride down to Tennant creek if you must but truck the bike from Barkley homestead to dalby or toowoomba or esk.

    Ok, organising that many transport legs for beer or $50 cash will be hard to organize without having a relationship with a network of transport drivers.

    We drove the lot including the Kimberley in a toyota 4x4 with a camper trailer in an october . 13000km in 5 weeks, 700 to 900 km/day with 5 days in darwin.
    It was 42 to 48 DegC and even with air conditioning and a car fridge of cold water it was too much and too hot.
    780km between fuel was the longest run.
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