PC's Adventures in Pictures

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  1. PC-Rider

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    Everyone else was doing airports, so I had to do this place.

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    Not currently an airport, and technically never was.
    But there was one off of this intersection which gave it it's name.

    THE AIRPORT CIRCLE ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

    Just the mention of this traffic nightmare would bring beads of sweat to the forehead, and fear
    and trembling to the mind of any driver from South Jersey.

    When studying for my New Jersey Drivers License Written Test a Traffic Circle was almost passed over except for the
    statement "A traffic circle is an uncontrolled intersection."
    You might as well add "GOOD LUCK" to the end of that sentence ! ! ! :huh

    Yep, there were no stop signs, yield signs or traffic lights.
    You were lucky that they put up signs for what roads were off of the circle so you could get the right one.
    Not that you had time to look for the puny signs they put up anyway, but the gesture is nice !
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    I guess one of the nice things about a circle is that if you miss your turn you could go back around again, ...... if you dared !

    Then someone puts their business off of one of these things and adds to the nightmare.

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    Or the airport, which was located on the other side of the mountain in the picture.

    The Pub has been here for quite a while itself.

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    Sorry for the lousy picture.
    Still a rookie at the time.

    (Still am !)

    The Pub was built in the early 1930's and got business from the airport, which was called
    the Central Airport, or Camden Central.
    The Pub was originally called "Neil Deighan's" (who was more famous for his restaurants then
    his minor league baseball and major league basketball careers).

    The building standing here today, (in my lousy picture) was built after a fire destroyed the original building in 1960.

    Here is a billboard for those flying over on the major roads.

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    History of The Pub with some great pictures inside and out and an aerial picture of the
    Airport Circle after the overpass was put in.

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    Almost brings a sense of pride to say that I have a license to drive in New Jersey.
    Kind of like the feeling you would get if you could tell people you were on the show "Survivor".
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    Traffic Circles are a good idea, depending on the roads that come into one.

    The original circle here was pretty much outdated before it was built.
    The traffic was too heavy here with four major roads coming together.
    US 130, US 30, State Highway 38 and State Highway 70.
    Just look at the spaghetti on the map as it is today ! :eek1

    Here is an original picture from ( http://www.dvrbs.com/camden/CentralAirport/NJDOT-130-AirportCircle-04b.jpg ).

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    You can see the airport at the bottom.
    Notice the biplane !

    I believe it is OK to re-post these pictures because credit is shown where they came from.
    Plus I am not making any money off of this, for sure !

    The Pub, or Neil Deighan's would be directly opposite the airport to the left of the wide road, which
    is US 30 (heading West [toward Philadelphia] to the horizon). It looks like the pub was not built yet in that picture.

    Because of the traffic flow they built an overpass for US 30 and made things better/worse
    depending on your perspective.

    Here is a picture from 1950 which looks like they had just finished the overpass.
    From ( http://www.dvrbs.com/camden/CentralAirport/NJDOT-130-AirportCircle-03a.jpg )
    The pub would be off to the right just out of the picture where that round building is.

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    Here is a picture from "The Pub" website I linked above with The Pub sign clearly visible at
    the top of the picture. (That round building is gone.)

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    US 30 went up and over the other roads right through the middle of the circle.
    What made things difficult on the ground was that now you could not see what was coming
    into the circle because the bridge abutments were blocking your view.

    Not to mention that when it rained any harder than a passing shower the roads at the bottom would flood ! :huh

    The current traffic pattern basically takes all of the major roads up over the local roads and
    divides them off on exit ramps.
    US 30 is on its own and completely goes over the circle.
    US 130 South comes
    into the circle and then merges with US 30 East and then they divide again about 3/4 mile later.
    State 38 East & State 70 East actually start here on the overpass and share a ramp and
    they divide quickly and make your head spin trying to figure out if you are in the correct lane or not.
    Then if you want one of those side roads you have to figure out how to get down to that level
    and then find the road you want off of the circle, which is still there ! :scratch :hmmmmm :loco

    So as you can see, it is still an adventure ! ! !

    There are three things that make a traffic circle ineffective.
    Too much traffic.
    Aggressive drivers.
    And those scared out of their minds who just sit there when a space in traffic comes up that
    even a tractor trailer could get into.

    Other than that it is a game of chicken.
    And what ever you do, do not make eye contact with another driver.
    Once you do, its all over for you, you become the looser, and you have to wait for the next slightest
    opening to stick your car into while those behind you are making sure their horns are still working. :shog

    AHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!! New Jersey !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    The airport here was very important back in the day.
    Celebrities used to fly into here to perform at the Latin Casino, which was in Cherry Hill just down the road.
    Or people would fly into here to get to the Garden State Race Track for horse racing.
    And it is also very close to Philadelphia.

    Camden Central Airport was built in the 1920's, and the Philadelphia Airport was built in 1925.
    The first bridge across the Delaware River was the Ben Franklin Bridge in 1926.
    Today a person coming to Southern New Jersey flies into Philadelphia International Airport
    and then takes one of the bridges over.

    Here is a great website on the Camden Central Airport and the Airport Circle.
    Great aerial pictures of the area and pictures of old planes and hangers. :thumb
    Check out the huge biplane that Charles Wiley (round-the-world speed record holder of the day)
    was passenger on on his way home from New York (about 1/4 of the way down).
    I never knew such a plane existed !
    Another large biplane can be seen about 1/2 way down under "Curtiss Condor".

    The airport was also being considered as a possible landing site for dirigibles including specifically the Hindenburg.

    A picture of driving in the circle in 1953 can be seen close to the bottom.
    Shows just what you
    might expect, except today you would (hopefully) not see a guy trying to fix his Model T in the flow of traffic ! ! ! :eek1 :eek1 :eek1

    Today the place that the airport was located is an industrial park and some strip mall stores.

    :cry

    Also noted at the Airport Circle was the first Dirve-In Movie Theater built in 1933, which I posted
    information on on page 29.

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  2. PC-Rider

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    Next stop !



    The TIRE STORE ! ! !


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    Now just look,
    the tread was still good,
    I could see nothing wrong with the front tire so all was right with the world.

    I had seen that the tires had a little dry rot on them long before this,
    and I was keeping an eye on the front one because of it,
    but with the trunk and stuff on the back I never bent over that much to check that one out.
    So while I was filling the tires with air, like a good motorcycle rider does !
    I see the tread looks a little lop sided at where the tread comes to a point.
    I look further and see the above picture.

    Wow, good thing I noticed this before it got worse !

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    OK, its worse.

    I had turned the tire and found that.

    And this.

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    OK, so its much worse ! ! !

    Now I can not complain about the tires.
    I got a good 20,000 miles out of them, and I do not know how many were on those tires when I got the bike.

    So the bike is out of commission for almost a week to get tires and have them put on.

    I will say that one day I was riding down the road.
    I know where I was at the time, but I can not remember why I was there.
    Anyway, I feel a bump and I look in my mirror and see a piece of something black bouncing down the road.
    Hmmm ! I don't remember seeing anything in the road that I could have run over.
    Oh well, I must not have seen it.
    Turns out it was a piece of rubber off my tire.
    After this I had noticed the bike bobbing up and down when riding slow.

    Hmmmmm. I wonder what that could be ?

    Figured that out fast !



    Those were Metzeler's.
    Not bad.
    But I am no expert of course.
    I figure that 20,000 is pretty good.

    I was encouraged to put on Dunlops by a gentleman who's wife owns a PC-800.
    He even put them on for me because he knew how to deal with Tupperware and saved me the aggravation.

    And you know what, even I noticed a difference between the two tires.
    Mostly on tracking on those stupid cracks going down the lanes in the road.
    You know, the ones that suck your bike right into them like a magnet.

    The Dunlops go right over them.
    I am still cautious of course, but I don't get concerned like I use to.
    The Metzeler's would grab those cracks pretty good and jerk the handlebars.

    So, that is my tire story.

    I just thank God for protecting me and my wife.

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    And the front tire still had a good 100 miles or so on it !

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  3. advtenn

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    Hello PC rider. I once ran the Metzler in the rear of a PC and noticed the cracking in the depth of the tread like the pic that you posted. My tire even had much more tread.

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    I talked to the shop that sold me the tire and they told me they had seen this before.
    They said it was normally due to running the tire lower than the recommend pressure. I admit, my tire pressure was too low.
    I replaced it with the Bridgstone.
  4. PC-Rider

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    On our new tires we went here about a week later one Wednesday night after church.

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    Yup, Jersey Barriers on a hill.

    Believe it or not the tagger somehow got his bike up there and turned sideways.
    I tried ! :evil
    But the bike would have nothing to do with that trick.

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    I certainly do not have enough experience, and the bike is really not designed for that.
    So I settled for the bottom of the hill.

    The barriers are protecting people from this.

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    The Dukes of Hazard jump on the Bridge to Nowhere !

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    Turns out the bridge was built by one of the utility companies (said to be Bell Telephone in the 60's) to get trucks out
    onto the marsh to put up telephone poles and wires, which you can see in the pictures.
    It has turned into disuse and was taken down before it fell down.

    The lights in the background are from Long Beach Island, and specifically Ship Bottom.
    In the picture above you can see the Route 72 bridge that connects the island to the mainland.

    This is looking back at the road we took coming in.

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    The last section of the road is dirt for only about 1/10 or 2/10 of a mile.
    The rest of the road was pretty nice for leading to nowhere !

    Bridge to Nowhere.

    Believe it or not I had wanted to see this myself anyway.

    I certainly did not expect to see it at night time.
    Pretty creepy out here on the bogs ! ! ! :eek1

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  5. PC-Rider

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    Hello advtenn.
    Thank you for looking at my pictures.

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    I knew these were going to need replacing soon just because the tread was getting thin and I was keeping an eye on them.

    I got a verbal award for "Those are the worst tires I have ever seen!" :ilmostro
    (Not that I am really proud of that of course ! ! !)

    They told you Low tire pressure huh?

    I have kept an eye on that since I had the bike and never let it get low for any length of time.
    I can actually feel when I need air in my tires now.

    The front tire showed some of the cracks, but they were very tiny, nothing even close to the back.
    I would also assume that the back tire of this bike takes a lot of weight with the final drive and trunk. Not to mention my GIVI and a passenger now ! :D
  6. PC-Rider

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    I found this really small house that you could put on your bike.

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    Or put your bike on.

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    Just a miniature version of the real house.

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    Turned out to be an old store known as The Quaker Store, or Mrs. Stripoli's Quaker Store.

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    On the White Horse Pike.

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    Now I have ridden by here many times in past years and I never really noticed this building.
    I think I found out why.
    Looking at the pictures on this link this building was white and a little on the rough side.
    Not that attractive.
    Plus it is at a busy intersection where your major concern is not becoming a New Jersey pancake statistic.

    Mrs. Strapoli's Quaker Store does not have a lot of information about it on the web.
    The only thing I could find was from local residents of Stratford sharing their memories.
    You just have to search for Strapoli to find it on that page.

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  7. PC-Rider

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    Heading into September of 2010 the State Tag came back around to the south.

    So I jumped on it ! ! ! :evil

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    It was not really that easy to locate, and I was kind of going on blind faith that I had found the right spot.

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    Yes, I was on sand.

    But it was packed.
    At least in all of the places I decided to ride on.
    There was soft sand around and I avoided that like the plague !

    Not only that, but I backed my bike down to the river.
    And I did not even get my tires wet !
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    Scared me a little, but I am on the adventurous side, so I made the attempt, and it worked out nicely.
    Even found a root to put my kickstand down on.

    I know it does not look bad in the pictures, but it was on more of an incline than it looks.

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    This was the paved road coming in.

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    And the dirt/sand road back to the canoe launch.

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    There is no website for this.
    As the sign says it is a canoe launch for the Mullica River.
    Yes, the same one with the Recycled Plastic Bridge up river (to the right), and the Mullica River Bridge CR563 down river (to the left).

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  8. PC-Rider

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    Now the Mullica River Canoe Launch was not that far from me, and therefore in South Jersey.
    Which is a rare thing.

    But it was September and I had a 9/11 Tag I had been wanting to do above the Southern Tag Line, so we headed out there.
    Unfortunately, when we got there, we found that it was being renovated.

    So I chose my alternate.

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    Yes, AUTO PARTS ART !

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    Originally located at this corner.

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    The creator of these had a lot more dinosaur sculptures here but the gentleman had died, and his creations were being moved to a museum somewhere.
    This was the only one left standing.

    Built by Jim Gary, he must have been one creative person to make such a nice sculpture as this.

    The house here has been bought and the current owners had no problem with me taking pictures, and walking in their back yard.
    Actually the property the last dinosaur was on was not theirs anyway, but I was pretty much in their back yard.

    Here is a video I had not found before showing this back yard before everything was moved.

    Here is a video showing his creations being moved, including this one.
    That one is a little long and redundant at times, but interesting none the less. Especially the interviews with some of his workers.

    And there are more under the posters 19 videos.

    Mr. Gary was apparently a renowned artist and sculptor.

    Someone started a facebook page also.

    I now know that they moved them to the Tallahassee Museum, FL

    Here is a nice writeup by The New York Times about Jim Gary.

    And of course, Wikipedia.

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  9. PC-Rider

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    Another old house.

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    Apparently this log home was encased in renovations over the years.
    So much so that when that house was being torn down in 1967 they found this inside !

    A picture of the back as it is.

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    And a glamor shot.

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    All hand-hewn logs from trees that grew in Mount Holly 300 years ago ! ! !

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    Shinn Curtis Log House

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  10. PC-Rider

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    My next stop I will just post pictures.

    There's just too much to comment on, and a picture is worth a thousand words.
    And yours will make more sense to you then mine will !

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    It's A Toy Store facebook.

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  11. PC-Rider

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    Next day was a Saturday and a day to take a nice long ride.

    But first we had to catch the flag.

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    Nice mural on the side of Mid State Pool Liners inc. in Saddle River.
    Kind of Mid-Jersey.

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    Actually, I think I took off work on this beautiful fall day in early September.

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    Some really artistic people out there ! :thumb

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  12. PC-Rider

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    From Mid Jersey we headed north to a place I had wanted to see.
    And I was totally surprised when I found more than I had read about.

    Coming in on the paved roads we first came to this one.

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    And I saw more in the back yard and down the road.

    A little further up past the person's house who lives here.

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    Down in the back yard.

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    Further down the road I see more in a fenced in area.

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    Kind of a serpentine effect in person.

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    I figured that if someone got there during the day they could use the ball.
    But at night, with that being in the side yard, they could take a picture of this just down the road in the fenced in area.

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    This was the road we used coming in.

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    And this is the road we took out.

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    There was something down there I wanted to see.
    The road was not that bad.
    Except for the gravel hill on the way out !

    :D

    And I was totally surprised that no one had used these as a Tag before, even though after I posted it everyone knew about these.

    An interesting perspective on Split Rock Road.

    WeirdNJ's take on Split Rock Road.

    Between those two sites I found those nice artistic rock sculptures on a beautiful day.

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  13. PC-Rider

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    Up the gravel road (Correction: Down the gravel road !) we go to find Split Rock Reservoir Dam.

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    The person who Tagged this actually parked their bike on the dam.
    It was too busy to do that this day.
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    Beautiful and peaceful.

    Interesting that they put the words Splitrock together for the reservoir, and the road is Split Rock ! ?

    625 acres of water for people to play on here.
    There is plenty of space for hiking and canoeing.
    Most of the lakes up here are reservoirs for drinking water, but they do not say which city this is stored for.

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  14. PC-Rider

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    Beings we are up this far I decided to go further north and show my wife some of the interesting things I saw on my first Bruce Run.

    This is Connie located at Greenwood Lake Airport which I posted back on page 14.

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    This is the 1946 Lockheed Constellation N9412H, from which they affectionately named Connies.

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  15. PC-Rider

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    And just down the road I showed her the old entrance to Jungle Habitat.

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    Also posted back on page 14.

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    Our next stop was a new one for me.

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    This is Long Pond Ironworks.

    Way up in North Jersey.

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    The first picture is of the company store, or Ye Olde Country Store.

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    This was next door and is listed on the map as Sommers Stites House.

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    The Hewitt Church across the road looked very interesting.

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    Especially that ornate steeple.

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    Long Pond Ironworks.

    A longer history of Long Pond Ironworks.

    We finally found a place to eat our lunch.
    They do not seem to know what a roadside picnic table is up here in the northern reaches.

    And then our long trek home.

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  17. PC-Rider

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    The trip home from Long Pond was around 130 miles.
    With no major roads between there and my home we did two laners that took us just over 3 hours.

    Needless to say, it was dark when we got home !

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    I do not know what possessed me, but I went out the next morning before work to get the Southern Tag.

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    I had an awful time trying to find out where this Tag was from the clues the Tagger provided.
    Perhaps a brain freeze or something like that !

    But I found it with a little help from some others who were coxing the clues along.

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    Many boat companies in New Jersey have gone up and down over the last decade or so with the ups and downs of the economy.
    Some held on and came back several times, but most are now completely a part of New Jersey's history.
    This one seems to be still holding on.
    It seems, as unusual as it is, that the manufacturers of larger boats are able to hang on.
    This place makes 35 to 65 foot yachts.
    I am guessing that those with the money still have money to play with.
    Plus the bigger boats are not limited to an exclusive American clientele.

    Some nice murals on the walls.

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    Must have been nice when they were fresh.

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    One of the things that was throwing me off was the size of the hulls in the original picture.
    It looked like a 19 footer.
    When I found out it was pretty big it made more sense.
    The trailer in front of the hull here looks like it is for a boat around 19 feet.
    Compare that to the size of the hull.

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    Yup, not the trailer for that boat !

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    Egg Harbor Yachts history goes back to 1946.

    Egg Harbor Yachts website.

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  18. DouglasVB

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    The chunking Metzeler issue seems to crop up once in a while on the IPCRC mailing list. I replaced a pair of Metzelers on my PC800 last year when my rear tire started to develop cracks. 20k is right on the money with how long this particular brand/model of tire should last. Personally I've decided to stick with Metzelers for the time being and just keep a close eye on the tires. In the future I might give Dunlop a try. Or possibly even go to the "dark side" and run car tires like a bunch of other people are now doing.

    Glad you didn't get in a wreck from your rear tire chunking out :-)

    Cheers!

    Douglas
  19. PC-Rider

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    Thank you Douglas.

    I am certainly glad I did not have a wreck also !

    I always hear stories about how little mileage you get out of motorcycle tires, and everyone is amazed I got 20,000.
    I know now that it depends on the makeup of the tire.
    Softer compound goes faster, in both speed and wear ! ! !

    We will see how long the Dunlops last.
    I am sitting here trying to figure out how many miles I have on them right now.
    I would guess somewhere around 12,000.

    I can not remember if I posted the speedometer problems I had, so my mileage is a little fuzzy without my paper work in front of me.

    Also remember, that I do not ride aggressively, so my wear would be more in the center of the tire anyway, as the pictures prove out.
    (Plus I am on flat land with straight roads too).

    All part of the fun of riding a motorcycle ! :wink:
  20. DouglasVB

    DouglasVB Tupperwear Rider

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2009
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    Location:
    Monterey, CA
    Your mileage with the Metzelers was spot on. With the aggressive twisties we have out west here in Oregon Territory, I usually get 15-20k. I've seen reports of as high as 25k.

    Dunlops from what I've seen others report get between 8 or 9k and 15k with average use. As always, YMMV :-)

    One note about the Metzelers: make sure that the rear is inflated to 42psi. That seems to help it wear better and helps prevent chunking.