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Discussion in 'Equipment' started by ag_streak, Jun 6, 2007.
Nice! I like those. Once mounted, pictures please.
A big SNAFU in the mounting process...
I mounted the left side before checking the exhaust pipe clearance on the right. The result is a MAJOR remodeling of the bottom of the right bag, including cutting into my nice new $75 truck bed lining.
I used some plastic ammo cans. I got them for 30 dollars with shipping. I used 1/2" conduit straps to mount them and a spring to secure them. They come off in seconds... Great for short trips. I may need to go to the table saw for something bigger.
The top box is a dry box from Cabellas cost about 15 dollars.
The work some of you guys did is awesome!
I ran into fitment issues with the first prototype I did awhile back. So glad I built those suckers like that first. Was this the same bike you had built the first pair for from before?
Nope, the last ones were for my V-strom. These are on the Bandit. I used the SW-Moteck Quick-Lock carriers.
Here they are mounted. Originally, the right bag hit the pipe. I had to notch the bottom and angle them more. I like the way the notch came out but I don't like the angle too much.
The unfinished wood in the photos where I notched the bottom of the right bag will be painted, clad in aluminum, and have an insulated heat shield.
I still need to mount the lid latches and some bungee mounting hooks.
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to what would have been a major "ah shit"
How 'bout some build pics when you're finished. I re-read the build process for your first set, but I'm interested on how your made those new lids. I've got some plywood out in the shop and I have a winter with no projects planned...
I like the way your mind works...
Sorry, no build pics this time around.
I started with a solid 2 x 10 (9 1/4"?) cut to the length of the bags (18") and beveling all the edges on the table saw. They came out like junk, so I built up the perimeter of the tops and bottoms with 2 x 4's ripped like this:
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Ok so I've been looking into luggage systems for my KLR 250. I apparently entered into the wrong career, I should be selling this stuff and raking in a fortune!
In the true spirit of the do-it-yourselfer I'd like to look into fabbing up my own luggage system. I've used the search feature here and found very little info on anyone doing this, Google has returned some sketchy results...anyone have anything they've created? Details and pictures would be helpful.
I'll update this thread as I make progress, right now I'm thinking metal conduit bent to match what Happy Trails has available (LINK), and then pairing a set of military ammo cans with the water tight seals in place and then rattle canning the whole thing black with rustoleum. The cans lock, seal out the elements, and provide the storage I'm looking for (small amount of food, change of clothes, small tent) and then I'm thinking of fabbing an attachment for the back of the cans to hold small fuel containers of some sort.
I am at work now. I have got some drawing at home. I can sent them to you.
If you are talking about hard luggage, I think everybody put their ideas here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237047&highlight=pannier
thats this thread. you put a link to this thread in the thread. thats class mate
A few pages back I saw a link to some Cabela's ammo cases, but the link was dead (didn't see the date). Poked around the site and saw these for $8.
Then I saw these for $30, and they look much nicer.
Figured I'd post the links in case anyone was interested
Admin's merged the threads.
While I wholeheartedly encourage you to go for it and post pictures here, I'll give 'ya my two cents!
A. Ammo cans are HEAVY,
B. Conduit is SOFT
I am not aiming this towards ag_streak in particular, but the group as a whole. Why is everyone so uptight over the weight of ammo cans? A pair of ammo cans (assuming the same weight for mounting frames and hardware) can't be more than 10#s a pair heavier than aluminum ones of similar dimension, or am I way off here? Assuming I am close, what is 10# to a motorcycle that will likely be spending 95% of its time on paved roads or fire roads? Seems like a lot of fuss over nothing. If they were 30# a set then that is some weight, or if we were talking about bicycle panniers. And for the crowd that would argue 10# is a lot compared to the weight of your gear, can't most motorcycle suspensions handle a pillion without severe consequences? Meaning even a light passenger at 110# is a lot of gear. This obviously excludes folks who are taking both pasenger and gear. Or what about guys that weigh 150# vs guys that weigh 220? Again, it seems that ammo cans get universally poo pooed for weight without any other caveats. I am wondering what I am missing. I am thinking of using an ammo can for a single box on my Triumph Scrambler, so I do have a vested interest in productive responses.
I made my own racks, does that count?
Fair questions, Ben!
I think your points about the total weight are fair. In the grand scheme of things, it's not too much for the overall bike to handle, but IMHO, it's the how and where that's important.
In other words, you're not distributing that weight evenly over the whole bike, but rather, hanging two relatively heavy boxes off a set of brackets (typically) bolted to the bike's existing subframe, which may or may not have been designed for the increased load. And, that weight is now placed pretty far from the bike's COG, so any mass wa-a-ay back there will have plenty of moment.
My comment above about the weight of the boxes was intended with the softness of the conduit in mind. I wouldn't say a conduit mounting bracket couldn't be designed to support that kind of weight, but if you simply replicate the geometry of a Givi or similar design in conduit, it may be too soft. Maybe well-placed bracing would work.
All that being said, GO FOR IT, and post up pictures here!! The more ideas the better!
TT, yes, that counts!
That's looks great! Will you have 'em powdercoated? Got any more pictures? What soft bags do you use over them?
I've got a set of the Mermite can's that I'd like to turn into panniers for my Honduh.
Has anyone installed a set of Aux Brake/Turnsignal's in them? I havent seen anyone do that on here(done alot of reading and searching), and i'm wondering if theres some reason why? The only problem I can see would be reduced water proofness if you dident get a tight seal on them.