Phone USB ports are flakey!

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  1. dhally

    dhally Hammerhead

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    I've got a RAM Xgrip and now with 2 different phones the micro USB connection is unreliable. On my old phone LG G3 the phone would switch from fast charging to slow charging. On my new phone LG XVenture it will turn the screen on. In both cases it seems that vibration is causing the connector to loose it's connection, and the phone thinks it is unplugging/plugging.

    I've tried different cables and even duct taping the connection, and they all eventually flake out.

    Has anybody else had this problem, or any fixes?

    Right now I'm just keeping the phone unplugged, because I'm worried about damaging the phone port. The XVenture has a big battery so it lasts almost 2 days, but this won't work for longer off the grid rides.
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  2. webmonstro

    webmonstro A Aventura Continua....

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    I've orded a magnetic cable . Once it arrives I will silicone the plug on the phone and try using it on the bike . This way the plug won't be damaged (I hope)

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  3. Chaostrophy

    Chaostrophy Been here awhile

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    Long term, usb-c is the way to go. I've had a Nexus 6p for almost 3 years, phone was replaced under warranty once, but I'm still using the same cables, I've lost some, but I haven't worn any out the way micro seem to last only a month or two.

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  4. dhally

    dhally Hammerhead

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    I could live with cables wearing out. I'm worried that the phone socket is wearing out.

    Is it just the make plug that gets loose on micro USB?
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  6. dhally

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    Yeah, but... The xventure doesn't have wireless charging.
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  7. Jim(tm)

    Jim(tm) Adventurer

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    I use a cable with a right-angle plug and that works better. Make sure the X-grip isn't pressing any buttons and use a toothpick to clean the lint out of the phone's USB port.
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  8. webmonstro

    webmonstro A Aventura Continua....

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    What went wrong with the magnetic cable ? The cable or the plug ? Or the USB port ?
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    Magnetic cable did not hold as strong as if usb was plugged directly in. Sometimes it does not sit just right, it does not charge but glancing at it looks like it is plugged in. Can plug in to charge in either direction but found out only one direction gives fast charge.
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  10. webmonstro

    webmonstro A Aventura Continua....

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    I' m going to try this one :
    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/332631567611
    As ir being round it should not mater the position it connects

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  11. dhally

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    Does anybody make a cable that has bigger stiffer prongs to hold it in? At certain rpm that magnet would fly off I think. Maybe I need a more rigid or less rigid mount.
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    webmonstro A Aventura Continua....

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    I'm going to put RTV to help hold the plug in and keep water out

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  13. petertakov

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    Light, thin and flexible cables will cause less stress on the connection and will vibrate/transmit vibration less. Attaching the cable to the mount (tape, tie, pinch - whatever), also reliefs stress from the connection itself.
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  14. webmonstro

    webmonstro A Aventura Continua....

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    Hi all
    I've used a Casio Commando as a GPS sucessefuly on my bikes for the last 3 years with a Slip Grip Mount with a home-made charging solution using pogo-pins and the external contacts on the commando
    Unfortunately in a recent fall I broke the mount
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    This is my current solution:
    I got a Magnetic USB Cable :
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    chose this one as since it's roound i should work in any angle

    I then removed the waterproofing cover on the USB port on the phone:

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    then fitted the magnetic plug and aplied RTV

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    webmonstro A Aventura Continua....

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    I then cut and joind the cable to my usual 12-5v converter

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    fitted some velcro padas to the back

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    and fitted to the bike with a silicon flexable holder
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    the idea is that the RTV will keep the water out and avoid damage to the USB port from vibration

    Have'nt had a oportunity to test yet but i'm confident in the solution
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  16. dhally

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    Looks like a good solution for a dedicated GPS phone. I have thought about dedicating a phone to GPS use. For that, I could just glue the plug into the socket directly.
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  17. dhally

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    Makes sense. My cord is connected to the Xgrip with gear ties. It worked fine for several rides, then started disconnecting.
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  18. petertakov

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    Could it be that the cable is disconnecting at other end - not the phone but the charger end? Also, if you use cigarette lighter type charger these are prone to be pushed out of the socket by vibration. I had to scratch quite heavily the inside of the socket in order to prevent this.
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  19. dhally

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    That's a thought. I have two other connection - a coax Gerbings type which is on the bike and a USB A type in my tank bag. I will check them. And the spade connectors at the wiring harness.
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  20. Mat

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    I think wireless charging is the way to go for sure. There are adapter solutions that plug into your USB port. In order to not have the same problem all over again, just with the added hassle of wireless charging in between, make sure that the adapter is well fixed to the phone. The simplest ones are just a plug and a coil (link), others are part of a case. That might be the better solution. If the case / adapter is more attached to the phone than the mount, you might isolate the USB socket and plug from a lot of the vibrations.

    Or, for that matter, a system that has a solid phone case with built-in plug and its own connector to the mount might relieve stress from the phone plug itself...

    In the long run, a dedicated, mid-priced phone that supports wireless charging might be a better solution.
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