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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Navin, Oct 23, 2017.
KTM copy frame
Lets take a look!
Sure looks like the engine from the CSC 250 Adv bike thats thumpin all over the USA with happy, if frugal, customers.
Pitster has a few vids with their tester dropping off ledges and turning some MX laps. It isnt slow LOOKING and the suspension isnt crashing thru the stroke like one might expect from a cheap bike.
EDIT, Index for specific info. Send me a title and link and I can pop it in here.
Parts from other bikes for the LXR250f
BAD INFO Clutch friction plates, BAD INFO!
NOT-(same as Honda XR650L or a CR500)
Stick with Zhongshen original clutch parts for now.
Gas tank, shrouds, seat, fenders, air box, AIR FILTER same as 2014 KTM 125SX
Radiator cap- same as Honda/Suz/Kawi/Yamaha thumpers
FRONT, DRZ400 ALL YEARS
Rear, same as Honda CRF250X
Front : EBC Brand FA86HH or equivalant
Fork seals common 47mm Showa
Complete shock absorber from 1993 up Honda CR125. Likely all CRF250X also.
The older shocks are 46mm and a step backwards. The 250x shocks look to be 50mm and the best option.
Rear lower swing arm chain guide CRF150R
TMD designs and is much better than the stock guide. (CRF150R) confirmed fit.
Wheels exchange with those fitting 250x 04-17 and 450x 05-17
Rear #61905 or a common 6905 bearing - 25x42x9mm (4 bearings in hub) with Honda style threaded retainer on one side.
Big Bore tutorial here;
Sale price today is $3599. List MSRP in page from Pitster below.
Model: LXR 250F EFI
Battery: 12 Volt
Bore and Stroke: 77x53.6mm 250cc
Clutch: Manual 6 speed, Optional Auto Clutch by EFM
Compression Ratio: 11.6:1
Cooling: Liquid w/ twin radiators and braces
Electronic Fuel Injection: Delphi 34mm /Twin airfilter system
Engine: Liquid cooled Four stroke 4 valve single cam 250cc
Gearing: 13/49 T # 520 Chian
Ignition: EFI Kick and electric start 12v
Max Output: 32 hp @ 8000rpm
Max Torque: 21 ft/lbs @7000 rpm
Starter: Electric start 12v with back up kick starter
Transmission: 6 speed, Optional EFM Auto Clutch
CHASSIS AND DIMENSIONS
Color: White w/Custom 3m graphics
Dry Weight: 247 lbs with light kit / 235 lbs without light kit
Frame: Light weight central backbone chromo "A" box frame
Fuel Capacity: 2.3 gallons
Ground Clearance: 13.2 inches
Overall Height: 50 inches
Overall Length: 84.6 inches
Overall Width: 32.8 inches
Seat Height: 37.3 inches
Wheelbase: 58 inches
Front: Telescopic, cartridge type, compression and rebound adjustable, 12 inches of travel
Rear: Linkage, spring preload w/ fully adjustable compression and rebound, 12 inches of travel
Swingarm: Alloy box design
WHEELS AND TIRES
Front Tire: 80/100x21
Front Wheel: 21 inch alloy
Rear Tire: 100/90x18
Rear Wheel: 18 inch alloy
Front Brake: Hydraulic disc 260mm rotor w/ twin piston
Rear Brake: Hydraulic disc 240mm rotor w/twin piston
3m graphics package: Standard
CNC Billet Engine and Fuel Cap Dress Up Kit: Optional
Digital Speedo W/ Trip Odometer: Standard (removable)
Hand Guards: Standard (removable)
Head Light & Tail Light: Included
Kick Stand: Standard (removable)
Light Kit With Optional Turn Signal: Standard (removable)
Pro style front number plate: Included
Racing number plates: Included
Rear View Mirrors: Standard (removable)
Speedo instrument panel: Standard (removable)
Taper Handle Bars 7061: Standard
Custom Graphics: Optional custom graphics and number plates
FEATURES NOT FOUND ON OUR COMPETITION
Brake Disc Guard and Caliper Guard: Standard
Brake Reservoir Guard: Standard
CNC Alloy Hubs With HD 7061 Alloy MX Wheels: Standard
CNC Billet Tripple Clamps: Standard
Gripper seat cover: Standard
HD Alloy Rims: Standard
High Flow Air Filter: Standard
Progressive Link Suspension: Standard
Rim lock : Standard
Skid plate and Frame Guards: Standard (removable)
Stainless Steel Fasteners: Standard
Taper steering bearings w/ dust covers: Standard
Ultra Flex Plastics
@malignity Shit or Shinola? Who will dare?
Everything but the motor looks like a KTM copy, it definitely looks better then the typical China bike. I suspect it's only a matter of time before they start cutting into everyone else's sales. Too bad they are so big on copying what someone else has already made, that being said it's definitely an improvement over their typical styling, RX3 excluded.
It is a nice looking bike!
The Pisterpro website isn't very confidence inspiring though.
No solid information other than what was copied above.
No engine mfg identified, nor suspension maker, or mention of parts availability.
So you go riding and find the fork seals have blown out, how long a wait until you can get replacements in hand?
Bearings for the swingarm and links, are they stock sizes we can source anywhere or are they unobtanium?
Is the shock rebuildable or not?
Fork springs, are they standard size so they can be easily changed for proper setup if we aren't in the "typical" weight range?
Sprockets? ECU? Radiator?
If we had a local dealer who actually stocked commonly used parts I would check it out as a low cost play dirt bike.
That is something we need, for those of us who aren't racing and don't want to pay for the latest racing bike.
It might be a serious contender in comparison to a used dirt bike of similar price if the engine has a more reasonable service schedule than the mx bikes.
Since the price of used race bikes drops about 50% in 3 or so years, I would prefer a new bike for the same money if it holds up.
A used race bike for the same money generally needs an engine rebuild as well as suspension at both ends rebuilt.
I cheer the little guys, the new guys, the up and coming small companies, but I hate the unsupported products that are so common from China.
You buy it, you like it until it breaks, then you can't ever get parts to fix it and it eventually ends up in a garage sale for $100
I hate to say it but that’s exactly what I want right now. Low cost, low weight, 6 speed and FI. Nice.
Still scared though.
That is a Zongshen RX3 engine so that is a plus in the reliability
department....HP figures are for sure inflated as its running the same compression
And Delphi FI....as the 25 hp RX3
I assume it wont come with a street title?
Couldn't really find any info on that.
This place hasn't been the same since Navin retired to Floriduh.
Why would they bother making this bike and not make a serious attempt at selling them? A pitster pro rep could post in this thread, answer questions, provide details, and satisfy the demand that's clearly here.
I want this bike; I'd pull the trigger on this over the CRF250L or Rally because of weight alone.
What do you all think about the Carb version from Pitster for only 2500 bucks:
Basically the mail in out of state SD trick. Pretty much how all dirt bikes are registered here in FL. Never done it and wouldn't want to try on a new bike.
No, that means PitsterPro is not on the NJ list of approved motorcycles. Neither is Hodaka who made several street legal bikes but no longer exist, so cant comply with NJ law (which, typical of NJ law, SUCKS!).
Just buy the damned Beta 125 already, splurge on a big bore kit, get bored with it and sell it on to your Maryland Internet buddy on your way to Joisey.