Proposed Colorado FS and other trail closings that WILL affect you.

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by jjmead1, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. dmac1

    dmac1 Long timer

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    UPDATE!!!

    The draft of the Pike/San Isabel Travel Management Environmental Impact Statement is scheduled to be released this month. If you aren't familiar with this issue, now is the time to get up to speed. The draft EIS will contain the various alternatives that the FS will provide, along with their preferred alternative.

    I believe the comment period will run 8/10-9/24 and that there will be public meetings in Salida, Pueblo, Denver and CO Springs towards the end of this month.

    As a refresher, this issue stems from a lawsuit by The Wilderness Society, Quiet Use Coalition, Wildearth Guardians, Rocky Mountain Wild and Great Old Broads for Wilderness, against the PSI USFS alleging that when the latest MVUM was created, the habitat of the Preble Jumping Mouse and Mexican Spotted Owl were not considered and that the USFS violated its process rules.

    Thus, up to 500 miles of off road trails and roads are threatened and subject to possible closure. This includes the entire 717 area and spans from the southern end of Rampart, all the way south the San Isabel, then west to 285 and north to Leadville. Pretty much EVERYTHING on the south side within a few hours of the front range is within the scope of this issue.

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/project/?project=48214&exp=location

    Lets get ready guys!
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  2. dirtydoug

    dirtydoug Been here awhile

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    Last time it was a Trout... what will they think of next
  3. _CJ

    _CJ Rugged Individualist

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    Speaking of trout.....I spend a fair amount of time in the Bear Creek watershed and surrounding area, and haven't seen a single fish this year. For decades, I've always enjoyed stopping and watching the fish in the streams, but this year? None. I'm starting to wonder if they killed them all with their "improvements", but aren't telling anyone.

    But yeah, back on topic, it's always going to be something with these people, and I don't think it has anything to do with the environment for most of them. They just want it all to themselves. Apparently, the 25% of all public lands that's already been designated as Wilderness isn't enough.


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  4. Eatmore Mudd

    Eatmore Mudd Mischief on wheels.

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  5. dmac1

    dmac1 Long timer

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  6. dmac1

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    Got the following from the forest service:

    "Pike and San Isabel National Forests and Comanche and Cimarron National Grasslands officials are currently working toward the release of the Pike and San Isabel National Forests Public Motor Vehicle Use Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS).

    Once the official review process has been completed and the DEIS is finalized, the Notice of Availability will publish in the Federal Register. Its publication initiates a 45-day comment period which all interested or affected parties can provide comments. Comments will support the Forest Officials in designating a minimum system of roads, trails, and areas for motor vehicle use by class of use, vehicle type, and time of year.

    Project timelines have recently shifted and are subject to change. Forest officials will update their project webpage with the announcement of the public comment period, the most up-to-date public meeting schedule and other information."

    And here is the project webpage:
    https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/psicc/home/?cid=FSEPRD640204
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  7. dmac1

    dmac1 Long timer

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    We have the proposed action. It should be published in the Federal Register today.

    The proposed action will close almost 11% of moto trails (I don't know how much is ST, 50", 4x4, or other), while increasing other trails open by almost 22%. There are 5 proposed actions, but even the most moto friendly one (D), while it opens new moto areas, reduces overall moto trails by about 3%.

    Alternative E would reduce moto trails by over 50%!! I don't currently have the bandwidth to dig deeper.

    Click first item on Analysis tab for the publication. Comments due 11/4/2019 and meetings will be held in 4 communities: Salida 10/8, Pueblo 10/9, Denver 10/10, Colorado Springs 10/11.

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/project/?project=48214
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  8. ramz

    ramz Professional Trail Rider Supporter

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    Routes open; Alternative C is the proposed alternative:

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    _CJ Rugged Individualist

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    50% reduction....good luck finding the money to decommission all those roads and trails, or to enforce it. It'll be absolute pandemonium if that goes down.

    Looks like C and D are just rearranging the seats at the table. Probably no "new" trails, just changing 4x4 "roads" into 50" and less "trails".


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