R1200GS Crash Protection Bars - one place

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Nelliott, Feb 9, 2014.

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Which Engine Protection Bars do you use for your R1200GS (Wethead or earlier)?

  1. BMW

  2. Hepco-Becker

  3. Wunderlich

  4. Touratech

  5. AltRider

  6. SW-Mototech

  7. MotoGeist

  8. Ilum Works

  9. Other (let us know the brand in a post - with pics)

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  1. Nelliott

    Nelliott Adventurer

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    Hi everyone,

    This Thread and Poll applies to all GSs (wethead, camhead, hexhead...)

    AND I am going to try to add a poll, but I don't know if it will work, here it goes...

    I have been searching here, BMWMOA, manufacturer sites, etc for the various options for crash protection bars for the R1200GS Wethead.

    So, if everyone is game, and to keep things all in one spot, can you post a picture of your bike with your protection bars/systems and tell us

    1. The make
    2. Why you choose it/them
    3. Does it interfere in any ways with maintenance or servicing (e.g. do you have to remove it first?)
    4. How's the fit and finish, does it meet BMW quality, tolerances, fit and finish?
    5. How easy/hard it was to install
    6. How well do you think it will protect your bike (vs reasons other systems that maybe you felt wouldn't meet your needs?)
    7. And any other good stuff about protection systems you think people should know about before they purchase.

    List of bars I have looked at...are there others?

    BMW (must scroll down the page)
    Engine: http://www.bmw-motorrad.ca/ca/en/index.html

    Upper: N/A

    Hepco-Becker
    Engine: http://www.motomachines.com/Hepco-Be...te_p_3463.html

    Upper: http://www.motomachines.com/Tank-Gua...te_p_3464.html

    Wunderlich
    Engine: http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/mot...40101-102.html

    Upper: http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/mot...50201-202.html

    Touratech
    Engine: http://shop.touratech-canada.com/sta...from-2013.html

    Upper: http://shop.touratech-canada.com/sta...from-2013.html

    AltRider
    Engine: http://www.altrider.com/altrider-cra...pid/1125/cid/1

    Upper: http://www.altrider.com/altrider-upp...pid/1128/cid/1

    SW-Mototech
    Engine: http://shop.sw-motech.com/cgi-bin/co...ypid=128747352

    Upper: http://shop.sw-motech.com/cgi-bin/co...ypid=128747354

    MotoGeist
    Engine: http://www.motogeist.com/content/201...0gs-crash-bars

    Upper: N/A

    Illum Works
    Engine: http://www.iliumworks.com/BMW_Motorc...=28-700&pID=90

    Upper: N/A

    Adventure Designs - advdesigns.com
    http://www.advdesigns.com/r1gsaenguex.html
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  2. matkal

    matkal Assault Commuter

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    Having just purchased an '09........

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  3. Nelliott

    Nelliott Adventurer

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    Excellent. 11 votes so far! Please keep 'em coming!
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  4. Otherworld

    Otherworld Been here awhile

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    I would like to also poll the BMW OEM users if they or the dealer experienced difficulty with installation due to a mount point being 1cm off -it just be me, can it?
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  5. Nelliott

    Nelliott Adventurer

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    Wow great participation. So far 36 responses, in less than two days.

    Get your vote in if you haven't had a chance to do it yet.

    Thanks
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  6. LaurelPerryOnLand

    LaurelPerryOnLand Long timer

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  7. liviob

    liviob Been here awhile

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    I believe the engine guards on my bike are the stock stainless steel BMW guards. They mount to the frame under the gas tank and over the engine bash plate. They seem well made and of quality material. I'm pretty sure you can run the valve tolerances with them mounted but they must be unbolted to remove the sump bash plate to access the engine oil filter. Honestly I have thought of removing them only because I prefer a cleaner looking bike and I don't plan to crash the bike. Hey Gaston Raiher didn't run them on his bike!
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  8. FlyingNarwhal

    FlyingNarwhal Adventurer

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    1. Altrider
    2. Recommended by offroad riding course. I hesitated between AR and Touratech. The AR skidplate made the system a strong contender. But mostly, Touratech is currently out of stock and I didn't feel like waiting :p
    3. 4. 5. They're in transit, I'll report after installing them
    6. From reviews, I'm very confident those bars will work great in case of need.
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  9. eap

    eap El Adventurero Solitario Supporter

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    Nice thread. I've had my bike since early Jan, clocking 550 miles in spite of the weather but haven't gotten crash bars yet. The open access to the cylinder heads is important to me and that, along with otherwise 'minimalist' design draw me to the Altrider and the Iliums. The ARs are stainless and available with uppers, but I think the Iliums are a cleaner look. Since I'm taking the BMW off road class in April, I may hold off my decision until after the class.
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  10. DennisK_ID

    DennisK_ID Old and In the Way

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    Yo, didn't vote but mine came w/ HB upper and lower. After buying the bike I wanted to delve into it a bit and found that the front engine cover that conceals the alternator belt couldn’t be accessed without removing the lower bars. Removal required a pretty long socket extension to get to mount bolts. Turns out that the side plastics don’t come off without removing the upper bars. OP had mucked up the bolt heads attaching the uppers to lowers and I couldn’t get into where the uppers attached to the frame pieces enough to make it easy to remove them. Needed a dremel with cutting wheel for removal of uppers.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    Revised the mounting of the uppers slightly so the nuts on the U-bolts access from the inside. New bolts to bolt the two together with protruding heads so if the hex recesses are turned the head can be attacked with a vice grip. All working and I love them but they come off for any maintenance. Carry tools including a long socket extension so I can get to all the mounting bolts.<o:p></o:p>
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    Working on the R100GS was so easy. Change air cleaner in less than a minute. The R12, seems like minimum ½ hour to set up for oil change. Maybe 1 hour to change air filter. Ah well. Ain’t giving it up.<o:p></o:p>
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  11. Telemarktumalo

    Telemarktumalo Go Red Sox!

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    If you plan to use your own bike, I would suggest you get crash bars before you go. You will likely see your bike on the ground at some point in the class.
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  12. justinallen03

    justinallen03 Been here awhile

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    great protection.

    My list of requirements:
    1. stainless
    2. allows GSA length shock install
    3. minimal width addition, preferably none
    4. price


    Went with BMW. met all the requirements, and with the MaMo valve guard covers, it's pretty robust.

    I am contemplating getting the TT upper guards, mostly b/c i would like to add lights and don't like the look of light bars or the fragility of the beak mounted kits. The added protection would be nice too.
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  13. Existence_Inc

    Existence_Inc The Wanderer

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    1. AltRider
    2. U.S. Designed, U.S. Made, U.S. Company, I liked the look, and the valves can be serviced with the bars on.
    3. Oil Changes and Valves without bar/plate removal
    4. Flawless.
    5. Easy to install. I did it by myself in about 90 minutes.
    6. I'm hoping the bars will do well when I drop the bike in the dirt. I liked the larger diameter steel used and how it mounted to the bike (no direct mounts to the engine). It also looks like it would keep the bike of the shift/brake levers and allow greater leverage to right the bike after a tip-over.
    7. I think all crash protection can be situationally effective. Sometimes having the bike encased in foam wouldn't save it and make sure it looks good for your Starbucks posing. :deal

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  14. eap

    eap El Adventurero Solitario Supporter

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    Well, I agree and plan to ride mine down, and use one of theirs.
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  15. Nelliott

    Nelliott Adventurer

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    Good idea! What course are you taking? (who is putting it on?)
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  16. eap

    eap El Adventurero Solitario Supporter

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    It's through the BMW two-for-one deal at the BMW Performance Center:

    http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Cont...ontent/Explore/Experience/PDS.aspx#motorcycle

    Website sucks, but they answer the phone - You have to book a class for two people by the end of February, but you can attend any class through Dec 31, 2014.

    BMW Performance Center
    1155 Highway 101 South
    Greer, SC 29651

    (864) 968-3000 (weekdays)
    (864) 968-3006 (weekends)

    A buddy and I are enrolled for April 29 for the off road school.
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  17. mefly2

    mefly2 Long timer

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    Back to crash bars ... BMW brand lowers with Touratech upper crash bars have been on my 1200 GSW for almost a year. Install was a piece of cake for the lowers but the TT uppers required some fiddling and shimming with washers to get both upper sides symmetric.

    I wanted stainless steel to reduce rust / staining and those two brands are was what was available. The TT uppers are designed to fit properly with the BMW lowers. The GSW frame is painted gray; so I didn't want black bars and the stainless attributes really made the decision for me. Although the BMW lowers are a bit light, I prefer the design (factory/OEM) and would buy this combo again. The lower bars make adjusting the valves easier if the mounting bolts are loosened and two removed. There is no need for removal of the lower bars for oil changes and the bars are not in the way of the filter for removal.

    I really like the aux light mounting options that the upper and lower bars provide. If you look at the price of just aux light mounts, the upper/lower combo cost is reduced significantly by not needing to buy the aux mounts.
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  18. Nelliott

    Nelliott Adventurer

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    Thanks for the focus. The results here (with 99 votes to date) I find very interesting. I expected AltRider to have more uptake than they do. And Hepco-Becker less.

    Shows you what I know!

    Thanks everyone for your participation to date. This thread responses with the polling really provide good information.
    and again, sorry about combining the BMW bags in one slot. The Specific BMW Vario vs Adventure bags is showing a telling story now too!
    Cheers.:D
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  19. Bigryamaha

    Bigryamaha Adventurer

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    Recently attended the 2-day off road riding school at BMW South Carolina. Evidently their bikes were shipped to them without crash bars and they had put Tourtech Bars on them. They were incredible. We hit everything in sight with no signs of damage. Others may be just as good but they were terrific.
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  20. TheRoss

    TheRoss Been here awhile

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    I have just stuck with the stock bars my GSAs have come with. I never drop my bikes, so I don't need additional crash bars.

    In September I fucking totaled my black GSA, along with a Ford Taurus, but I don't think better bars would have helped.

    Other than that I don't drop my bikes. :D
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