Radar Detectors?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by ogklx400, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. mayday

    mayday Stromer

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    just curious though - why would you ever give ANY company any of that info? A "junk" email account for those types of purchases, paypal for payment "John Doe" for name if they demand, 123 Main St for address etc. Hell, I don't even give the bank the correct birth date - they don't need it.
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  2. khpossum

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    You are right and I rarely give out any valid information unless I absolutely have to, which is not very often. That includes a junk email address. Information abuse is what keeps me from Facebook and sites like it. Awareness of information abuse is what made me read the the Escort privacy policy. Who does that? Not many people I bet. And most people will just provide all this information without a second thought. Hence my post to caution my fellow advriders.

    However, certain information gets pulled directly of my phone thru the associated app. From the phone number it is a small step to my real ID and information. No choice. Why the phone? Because the Escort app is used to download the radar location data base and most current report of speed traps. Can I do without that? Yes, but that is what attracted me to paying premium for a GPS enabled radar detector. Location information goes the same route, thru the app.

    The worst part is that Escort decided that this brand new privacy policy was OK. It shows a company who really does not give a hoot about its customers and will shamelessly sell anything and everything it knows about you. It just pissed me off. Maybe I am paranoid, but the recent Facebook scandal shows maybe I am not.

    So, the choice was obvious. They told me take it or leave it. I choose the latter, the Escort went back to Amazon. I am looking into the Radenso. I sure seems they have a great radar detector. Unfortunately no direct way of connecting ear phones / blue tooth. Marc Parnes will hookup a dongle for ear phones or his visual alert (http://www.marcparnes.com/Visual_Alert.htm), but I am sure that would void the warranty on an expensive device. So I am not quit there yet. I just got another ticket 2 weeks ago, so on my new radar detector I am trying to go all out on the latest available features.
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  3. mayday

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    ok, makes sense now - i would have passed too.
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  4. BetterLateThanNever

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    Sorry to be late to this party, but I just noticed you're in New York. I don't know if you ever cross the border into Ontario to ride, but it's probably worth knowing that they're illegal here, and the provincial police use Spectre on the major highways. They LOVE taking vehicles apart to find detectors, and the penalties are stiff and include confiscation. They're trophies for these guys.

    I used an Escort for a while a few years back, but got rid of it because the anxiety about getting caught wasn't worth the advantage it seemed to give me. FWIW.
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  5. TS888

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    I've had a detector in my car since 1987. I bought it right after I got a ticket. I got my next ticket in 1998, driving without a detector. I made it until last month without another ticket, when I got popped on the bike on the way to work, without a detector (I was allowed to attend traffic school and have the ticket dropped). To say I have a heavy foot/hand is an understatement, so the detector(s) have paid for themselves many times over. I am going to put one on the bike, because the state patrol has turned my 20 mile section of interstate commute into a cash cow, and I can't drive/ride at 65 on the interstate, it's too boring.

    To assuage any hand-wringers, I only ignore the posted speed on controlled access roads (aka interstate/freeway) or on rural roads with which I am familiar. In town or in anyone's neighborhood, I follow the posted speed. The only place going fast pays off is on the open road. Anywhere there are traffic controls, it is pointless and rude.

    OK -- if there's no one in front of me, I do haul ass over the Hood River bridge and up Dock Grade road :lol3
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  6. DesertPilot

    DesertPilot Been here awhile

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    I've found it easy to detect radar. Just roll on the throttle! Works like a charm!

    There may, however, be cheaper ways...
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  7. Need For Speed

    Need For Speed Ridin' foolishly and frequently

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    If you tend to speed, a good radar detector (and the ability to know how to use it) will pay for itself many times over. I have not gotten a ticket in over 10 years due to having one, but it has saved me countless times. And I'm talking about rural areas, out in the middle of nowhere.

    And the way I look at it - the general public won't quit breaking the law by playing with their f'n phones while driving (illegal), so I will break the law by speeding :finger

    YMMV
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  8. ogklx400

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    Hey khpossum you said you got another ticket I'm guessing a speeding ticket? In the same situation if you the had a good radar detector (tool) would it have helped out like the traffic enforcers was out of your site in between two bushes playing cat and mouse? In those citation the couple times its happened to me Iv used the method of a friendly wave to them almost like I know them and they have waved back to me. Thats one of my tools iv used to avoid getting a costly driving award. Has not worked 100% percent of the time but its worked a couple times.
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  9. theDoktor

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    Those of you with radar detectors on your bike, a couple of questions:
    1. How & where do you mount them?
    2. What do you do for weather protection?
    3. What do you do for theft prevention when you park the bike?

    I'm giving serious consideration to a V1 to be shared between my WeeStrom & GTI. Needless to say, I have a bit of a lead foot...I haven't used one for at least 10 years after my old Escort Passport was stolen from my car after a break-in. Not much laser used where I live now, but I'm more than familiar with it. I used to live near Fort Worth, TX. The PD there would use "wolf packs" of motor patrol cops lined-up on freeway on-ramps with a laser operator hiding behind signs on an overpass just before the on-ramp. (Loop 820 northbound at Sun Valley, for example.)
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  10. ogklx400

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    Thanks for the info good thing I don't own a radar detector and dont ride threw Canada. Here in NY I don't see police harassing someone with a radar detector on there bike just never heard of riders getting bothered but I'm shore it happens at times
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  11. randyo

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    I use a RAM mount, starting at a RAM ball on my master brake reservoir, with a long extension to a magnetic radar detector plate, keeping my detector as far outboard to the right as possible. By putting it outboard as far as you can, your signals are not blocked as much by traffic, and more of a direct line of sight to a leo parked beside the road

    weather protection, I put a baggie over it and cinch it to the RAM extension with a rubber band

    theft.. it's on a magnetic mount, I simply remove it and lock it in my luggage
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  12. Sal Pairadice

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    I have a cheapo Cobra on my Strom. Its gives so many false alarms it is almost worthless. I suspect its the adaptive cruise control and other sensors on cars, using radar. Can anyone point to a RD that isn't super expensive that is worth carrying? I'm in NY/ Poughkeepsie as well. I don't consider my riding excessively fast, but some of the best local roads are signed for 30 or 40 mph, just so you get a whopping ticket if you meet a cop and you are going 60, all alone out in the boonies! And God knows - my DL1000 can break triple digits in a few seconds if I occasionally misbehave.
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  13. khpossum

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    Yes, it was a speeding ticket from on oncoming cop. I am pretty sure if I had a RD I would have seen him tag cars in front of me. Not a lot of traffic, but enough to have gotten a warning. Waving does not work with our local sheriffs department. During one of the county board meetings they were awfully proud to pronounce that they had a record income from tickets.
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  14. ArmyStrong

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    **my comments to your ?s
    V! is a great detector. You may want to look at the Radenso RPSE with audio pigtail. Since Radenso formed NoLimits, the RPSE is no longer their flagship detector. You can likely get them used cheap. As for their performance and technology - they still are among the best and continue to get updates. Check out RDFORUM.org
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  15. ArmyStrong

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    I would suggest you spend some time on RDFORUM.org You can ask ?s and learn a lot. Plenty of modern day detectors that eliminate falses and give you a quite ride. You also can learn about the technology being used by law enforcement in your area to help you narrow down the best detector. For example - are their automated traffic enforcement in use..red light cams, etc that would point you to a detector that has a database/gps capability that warns you.
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  16. khpossum

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    Radenso RPSE is this one I assume at Amazon? I looked into the pigtails to get audio, but Radenso does not do them that way. Marc Parnes will convert one for a nominal fee, I assume if you buy his Visual Alert. I am pretty sure it will void your warranty though. I had a discussion with Radenso and their lack of motorcycle support. Not so sure if they are interested. Wouldn't it be great if they build in a blue tooth, but I would take a dongle. Contact Radenso and let them know, if enough people call them maybe they will change their mind.


    Update: A little earlier I resend an email asking clarification about possible warranty cancellation with the dongle fix. I did it with the full expectation that they would void the warranty. However, this is what they wrote:


    If you have a defect that is not related to the modifications, then we will cover it. But if it was to be replaced, you would receive a replacement unit without the modification as well.

    This sounds like a clearing to make the dongle fix and not void the warranty unless a future defect is related to the dongle installation. It sure seems like these Radenso guys are people one can work with. Previous phone conversations with customer service also have been pretty impressive. Radenso it is for me.
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  17. theDoktor

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    ArmyStrong & randyo: thanks for the VERY helpful information. Looks like it's time for more farkles on the Wee!
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  18. ArmyStrong

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    My Radenso RPSE was their "moto" edition, it came with pig tail standard. I would not by an RPSE new, they are discontinued. My thought was you could get one used. FYI mine was $419 new, on sale with the RDFORUM discount. If going new I would look at their new models but they have stopped offering the moto editions (pigtail). The RPSE is as capable as their new models except it doesn't have the Canadian radar band that isn't used in the USA, yet. They also will continue to upgrade the RPSE, the next change should eliminate most 18 wheeler collision avoidance falsies.
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  19. Drop_Center

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    I'd like to know the percentage of cops using Laser vs Radar outside of the city. Speeding in the city is risky business so I don't really care about that, but I'd like to know how useful a Ka detector can be is isolated areas, you know... where it's actually fun to ride?
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  20. Need For Speed

    Need For Speed Ridin' foolishly and frequently

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    In my experience, LEO's don't use laser in remote areas - not really worth their time, low customer count. I actually have the laser detection turned off on my detectors, due to false alarms and low likelihood that it would actually save me.

    But they do like to roll in their patrol units with KA or K running all the time. That is where the radar detector pays for itself, when you get a hit of KA or K in remote areas - it is almost always real.

    YMMV
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