Railroad Structures in Wisconsin

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  1. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Administrator Super Moderator

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    I didn't that PCT was that close to being fully implemented yet. Maybe it is on some main lines for some railroads. :dunno

    Nonetheless, I can't see where it would be a good idea to only have a single crewman in the cab while on the road. Too much human risk. I'm sure they will require that it be tested it for a while on select routes before anyone will buy into across the board. I hear some talk about having cameras on the crew at all times to people can see what is going on in the cab.
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    The cameras are right around the corner. They have been out front for sometime, what most crews are unaware of is that they the front cameras can record sound, for whistle and bell, but can receive voices of crews as well now. Passenger trains with under 6 hrs. run time are allowed engineer only in the cab (really dumb) now and have been for sometime. Indented for the commutator trains but the longer Amtrak also got caught up in it.

    Train stop is going to be tested and applied on certain routes. Some places are wired for it now. Chicago Northwestern has had a similar system in place for many years, ATC very safe but has some flaws. With freight and unit trains Coal and Grain the length and weight sometimes extend across several road crossings. About 10 percent of trains have issues air, power ect. only having one member on a crew could very easily cripple a large section of a town or city any given time.

    There are places that they could get away with some form of it, west Texas, Kansas, Neb. But knowing the railroad company's they will buy their way in to the hearts of all our congressmen and senators!
  3. Cannonshot

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    Lomira Depot

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    Lomira grew from a small settlement. Around 1899 they petitioned for incorporation. They posted copies of the petition in a couple of saloons and a store. Basically they said that they had a large number of stores, saloons, residences, elevators, hotels, blacksmith shops, a cheese factory, a planning mill, some other businesses and a railroad station.

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    The official vote was 58 for incorporation and 45 against.

    These old siding rails look pretty light compared to the main line.

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    Seymour Depot

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    Seymour started being settled in the 1850s. It is named for the former Governor of NY (who also ran against US Grant) because he was a big land speculator that owned a bunch of land here. Hence, many of the settlers came from New England.

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    The railroad hit in 1873. With the railroad, the town grew. At one time they had five timber processing mills in town. They were making wagons, hubs, spokes, barrel staves, shingles, and cheese boxes.

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    Once they harvest the abundant white pine in the area, things switched over to agriculture.

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    Seymour incorporated as a city in 1879 and was at one time the smallest incorporated city in the nation.

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    Some vandal apparently swiped the steering wheel from this thing.

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    Seymour claims that they served the world's first hamburger at the Seymour Fair of 1885. Someone decided to flatten a meatball and shove it between a couple of slices of bread for improved portability.

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    The grill they use for their worlds biggest hamburger routine.

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    Try flipping that slab of meat.

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  5. Cannonshot

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    Knowles

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    The railroad depot is gone, but one of the railroad related buildings still stands. There used to be a produce company here that shipped via rail. This is one of their railroad buildings.

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  6. Cannonshot

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    North Fond du Lac

    NFDL has pretty much been a railroad town over the years.

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    Even before the place was incorporated the railroad had shops there. The town has seen the Wisconsin Central, Chicago & Northwestern, the Soo Line, and Canadian National.

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    A house here is a former depot.

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    Aerial of the roundhouse. Papalobster posted some pix earlier.

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    In 1899, Wisconsin Central moved their shops of NFDL.

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    The current owner is CN. They took things over in 2000.

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    Ore cars in for service.

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    Yard office.

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    Aerial of the yard.

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  7. Cannonshot

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    Some Wisconsin railroad info.

    We have four Class I railroads, six short lines, and one local government owned route.

    3,603 miles of freight rail.

    540 miles of state-owned rail.

    3,036 railroad employees.

    0.84 employees per mile.

    The Wisconsin Rail Commission also owns 16 miles of track in Illinois.
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    Fond du Lac Engine, Interurban, and Depot

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    Back in 1911, Wisconsin Central bought four of these engines to use for passenger trains. The engine weighs 100 tons. The tender held 12,000 gallons of water and 175 tons of coal. The engine could maintain 200 lbs of pressure. It pulled up to 18 passenger cars and could hit 80 mph.

    This thing logged over 2 million miles. It ran between Fondy and Minneapolis and Winnepeg. When it was going to Winnepeg, the 800 mile run was the longest continuous run of any steam engine in the US at the time.

    The engine was moved to this site in 1955 by volunteer railroad crews that moved the engine and built track from a nearby spur.

    The other three engines from this purchase have been scrapped.

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    Fondy used to have an interurban line that ran up to Oshkopsh and Neenah. It started up about 1903.

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    The structure was moved to a park near the steam engine.

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    The railroad first hit town in the 1850s.

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    This depot was built in 1891 to replace the original one.

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    Some of the trains that ran from here included the Flambeau 400 and the Peninsula 400.

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    William Lamb was run over by a train near Fond du Lac and started to walk home on the Central railroad tracks.

    The Daily Northwestern, Oshkosh, WI 7 Jul 1902

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    FOND DU LAC BOY KILLED.

    Youngster Is Run Down by Northwestern Train at Depot.

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    Fond du Lac, Wis., May 23. -- While on his way home from school this noon ARLING PARSONS, a lad eleven years of age, was run down by a Chicago & Northwestern passenger train and killed. The fatal accident occurred in the plain view of hundreds of people, factory workers going to their homes and passengers at the station, waiting for the train from Oshkosh. The boy tried to cross the track ahead of the train but was struck by the locomotive before he had gained safety.

    The Daily Northwestern Oshkosh, Wisconsin 1912-05-23


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    SAW CARS AHEAD; JUMPED FROM CAB.

    Fireman J. M. Freenor Suffers Fracture of Two Ribs

    Saturday was a Jonah day on the Soo line as far as accidents were concerned. Fireman J. M. Freenor, residing at the corner of Scott and Doty streets, fearing a collision with some cars which were standing on the main line at the depot at Antioch, jumped from the engine cab and sustained two fractured ribs. Freenor says he thought the cars where nearer than they were, and he thought a smash-up was inevitable. He was brought to this city on No. 7 and is now at his home. The accident happened at 3:30 o’clock in the afternoon.

    Daily Commonwealth, Fond Do Lac, WI 3 Sept 1912
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    Malone Depot

    The depot was moved from the grain operation across the street to the current location where it serves as a museum. Had the building not been purchased from the co-op and moved, it would have been torn down since it was a pinch point for big trucks.

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    This depot was put in as part of the Sheboygan & Fod du Lac Railroad. It is the last remaining depot of that line. Some of the original track was dug up in a local field. The line ran until 1952.

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    The Sheboygan & Fond du Lac Railroad was chartered in 1847 to run between these two cities. It took a while to get the track completed for the entire distance, with short runs being constructed to Plymouth and Glenbeulah first. It seems there were a number of short lines that ran into Fondy from different directions.

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    You can pan and zoom this map if you want to trace the old route in more detail. Many of the abandoned lines listed on this site are now recreational trails.
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    Janesville Roundhouse, Yard Shack, and Freight Depot

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    The roundhouse is over 100 years old.

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    THREE TRAINMEN DIE.

    KILLED IN HEAD-END COLLISION OF TRAINS TWO MILES FROM JANESVILLE, WIS.

    WRECK DUE TO A MISTAKE.

    CREW OF A MILK TRAIN LEFT STATION BELIEVING OTHER TRAIN HAD PASSED.

    Janesville, Wis., Feb. 15. -- Three trainmen dead, one dying, three injured and six passengers hurt, were the casualties due to a head-end collision between a special freight and a De Kalb passenger train on the Chicago and Northwestern railroad two miles south of Janesville at night. THOMAS LAFFERTY of Baraboo, engineer; JOSEPH MAHER, fireman, Janesville, and Fireman BERMISH of Baraboo are dead.

    Conductor R. A. PECK of the freight train is dying. Conductor GEORGE DEVANSA of Janesville was cut about the head and shoulders.
    Engineer BRISCOE of Baraboo has a crushed foot. MRS. CROSBY of Sycamore and five other passengers were injured, but not severely. The wreck was due, it is said, to a snow storm.

    The wreck was due to a mistake over orders. A special milk was waiting here ready to go south as soon as the through passenger train from DeKalb, Ill., for St. Paul passed. Before the time the through train was due, a local from Belvidere, Ill., arrived and the crew of the milk train supposed this was the train for which they were ordered to wait. The milk train then pulled out for the south. Two miles south of here the passenger train was running north toward Janesville, going at a rate of sixty miles an hour on a straight, well-ballasted track. The two engineers saw the danger before the trains met, but not in time to do more than partically check the speed of their trains. With the crashing of the trains the wreckage took fire, but ws speedily extinguished. The passenger train was comparatively little damaged. It was a heavy train and most of the coaches remained on the track, though the passengers were all badly shaken up.

    The trainmen on the milk train were not so fortunate. It was there that most of the fatalities occurred. One body, supposed to be that of the fireman, is still under the wreckage of the two engines. The other two bodies were lifted out of the wreck and with the injured were brought at once to Janesville.

    Austin Daily Herald Minnesota 1906-02-15


    FATAL RAILROAD ACCIDENT.

    JANESVILLE, Dec. 23.

    A shocking accident occurred here this morning. As the wife of one of our most respected citizens, Mrs. E. H. Woodward, and Mrs. H. K. Whiton, were crossing the railroad track, in the city, they were struck by the switching engine, and so severely injured that Mrs. Woodward died in an hour, and Mrs. Whiton has suffered amputation of one of her feet, but it is thought she will live.

    The Milwaukee Sentinel, Milwaukee, WI 24 Dec 1864
  11. no

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    I didn't realize that DM&IR cars strayed that far...
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    What a great topic. Can't believe I did not trip over this one till now.
    I worked in the 1970's as a contractor for Boston and Maine, Conrail and I forget whom else.
    Have not thought of that stuff in a very long time. We loose railroad depots at an accelerated rate in the USA, as many times there are not funds to preserve them, even when they are donated- sometimes they end up tore down.

    Great post.
    Awesome pics you guys.
    I confess I don't have any motorcycle-train category imagery.
    Dang.

    Cold we do like haunted whore houses that are across from train depots next? :deal
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    Marion Depot (relocated to a park)

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    Across the road. Northwoods stuff.

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    I thought that maybe the DMIR sent out some of their maintenance and overhaul work to existing shops that bid for the jobs.

    Kind of interesting to track down some of this stuff and imagine what things were like back in the day.
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    Chilton Depot and Bridge

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    I see now that DM&IR was merged with Wisconsin Central in 2011.

    wiki

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    When I look back on the history of some of these depots, I find that some were built by some obscure start-ups. If you trace the ownership path through to the present day it becomes a big mess of mergers and acquisitions. Also, some segments were abandoned before the more recent changes so it is difficult for the reader to associate lines and buildings in many cases. With that in mind, I have been avoiding trying to associate a depot with a particular railroad and instead just concentrate on the location.

    Nice timelines for WI railroads.
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    RiderRick Been here awhile

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    Wow another great Cannonshot thread! some great photography and commentary. Thank you for dedicating your time preserving history this way and inspiring others to get out and investigate also. A terrific and safe 2015 too you all!:clap:clap:clap:clap
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    Hilbert Depot

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    Back in July some young fellow tried to run this crossing. The train hit his car and spun him around.

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    Thanks Rick. Hope you get a chance to visit some of these and take a few pix.