Rally-Raid Products Honda CB500X

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by ktmmitch, Sep 22, 2014.

  1. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Unicorn breeder

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    Hi Maxcielle - honestly, unless it's leaking or you've noticed the damping fading significantly during a longer ride, I'd just leave it alone... mine has over 34,000 miles on already (and you know what a life that has had ;o) and it still feels perfectly fine.

    Give it a clean and an inspection of course, but otherwise if you do ever need to get it serviced (and you do need a specialist with the correct tools to dismantle and re-pressurise it of course), there are a list of TracTive service agents across Europe on their website - or Rally-Raid can always help you too of course (with their own servicing partner in the UK - Torque Racing) if you send it back to them.

    As for the looming big trip, yep, I can't wait! - I'm really looking forward to piecing together some of my favourite sections of the Trans-Am Trail and BDR, together with my own variations... plus a bit of new exploring too of course!

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  2. Oyabun

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    I got to speak up here.
    I'd advise against skimping on the fork oil change and just removing the allen key at the bottom.
    If you look at the fork internals, you'll see why. The most of the sludge is building up on the bottom of thr forks, below the compression holes of the damper rod where it is not circulated around even on full compression. This stuff is a lot heavier than normal fork oil, and with the springs in place you cannot even cycle the forks to help cleaning. If you remove the bottom bolt, the oil will only drain through the damper rod, and will leave this most problematic last 15-20cc in there - instantly contaminating your fresh oil again. Not to mention in situ fork service makes a huge mess.
    Once the wheel and fender off, it is a breeze to remove the forks legs and do this properly.
    As for the rear suspension, the shocks are most probably good for a lot more miles, but I'd definitely give a good cleaning, inspection, and minimum a regreasing to the rear linkage. The needle bearings tend to dry up, and wear out especially with the added stresses of the L2 setup.
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  3. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Unicorn breeder

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    Which is why I already said it is better to take the fork legs off and do a proper job...

    Good reminder about cleaning and greasing the linkage bearings though!

    Jx
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  4. maxcielle

    maxcielle Been here awhile

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    The rear it's a bit bumpy when going uphill but I think I just need to tune the rebound maybe. Otherwise works perfect.



  5. chorizo

    chorizo Been here awhile Super Supporter Supporter

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    On the subject of forks, mine are a bit harsh. Would you people recommend to go with lighter oil?
  6. Oyabun

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    What is your weight and riding style, where do you feel them harsh?
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  7. HandCanonShootr

    HandCanonShootr Been here awhile Supporter

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    Behind my tent, the Salmon River.
    Woke in Idaho, sleeping tonight in CA...

    4 states in 2 days, the RR-CB did 460 mi yesterday, over 3000 miles total on this trip so far, no (engine) oil use! (@22k) one tire repl, chain about gone.

    This bikes balance of pavement/mile eating, and forest road / off-road prowess, are almost the perfect for me. And, as I told the owners of 1000-1200cc adventure bikes, at the Montana rally "also I can pick it up off myself, solo"

    Big smiles here.
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  8. chorizo

    chorizo Been here awhile Super Supporter Supporter

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    Thank you Oyabun. 104 kilos bone dry on good day.
    I can ride with the big adventure bikes on two lane roads in the corners but need push the bike to its limits.
    Its harsh only on bad tarmac. I can feel the washboard small potholes in my hands.

    I ride a hair above average on double track but I always choose the smoothest line.
    Shock and forks are harsh on the first 25% of stroke.
    Basically its more work and not as care free on rougher terrain as I would like it to be.


  9. chorizo

    chorizo Been here awhile Super Supporter Supporter

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    I have both. The RR is better for me all around and keeps me out of speeding trouble.
    My buddies are jealous for sure when I pick up my bike.
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  10. chorizo

    chorizo Been here awhile Super Supporter Supporter

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    Thank you Oyabun. 104 kilos bone dry on good day.
    I can ride with the big adventure bikes on two lane roads in the corners but need push the bike to its limits.
    Its harsh only on bad tarmac. I can feel the washboard small potholes in my hands.

    I ride a hair above average on double track but I always choose the smoothest line.
    Shock and forks are harsh on the first 25% of stroke.
    Basically its more work and not as care free on rougher terrain as I would like it to be.
  11. mantan

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    It will be awesome if RR can work with Recluse to adopt the auto-clutch for this bike. If MV Agusta can do it sure RR can do it.
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  12. Oyabun

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    Usually damping is not position sensitive, but if you're running the proper spring rates to your weight, a bit less low speed damping could help your issue.
    Keep in mind that suspension setup is a very subjective matter, so what is perfect for one, might not be the best for others. Also suspension setup is always a compromise - especially on an adventure bike it has to find a balance between street and off road.
    I have to say the shock is pretty damn good and can be individually set up for all characteristics, but the forks on the factory setup have a bit too much low speed compression damping for my taste - probably this is to compensate for the relatively low spring rate selection. The above setup has a slightly firmer low speed damping for good road manners, and quick action for higher suspension movements off road.
    By thinning the fork oil you'll decrease damping everywhere - what is imho less of a problem for high speed compression, but not necessary ideal for rebound.
    Having said that, many have found that 5w roughly 18SCT@40°C fluid is ideal for the RR forks.
    If you're already running something in that ballpark, and still would like to lessen the initial bite on compression, a small 0.8mm bleed hole on each emulator valve can help that without altering damping anywhere else. Also one can alter the fairly simple compression shim stack, as this is one of the key benefits of using such setup over the simpler Gold valve emulators offered by Racetech and YSS. Be aware that such modification will not be reversible, and your warrantee of the RR fork internals will be lost. If you're interested, there is a great thread by a fine engineer gentleman named Timur on tbe cb500x.com forums on modifying the RR front suspension.
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  13. chorizo

    chorizo Been here awhile Super Supporter Supporter

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    Great idea. Are you listening RR?
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  14. dirtytroll

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    Took my CB500X 2019 with Rally Raid Level 2 suspension, engine guard, footpegs and RR spoked wheels out for a 3200km adventure recently. Most of the ride was on the Trans Euro Trail Norway. The bike and the RR suspension/wheels performed great. I am very happy with it. Below you find my video series from the trip.

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    32dgrz Been here awhile

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  16. dirtytroll

    dirtytroll Been here awhile

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    I mounted a LithiumIon battery to my 2019 and it works very well. Here is a video about it:
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  17. HandCanonShootr

    HandCanonShootr Been here awhile Supporter

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  18. dirtytroll

    dirtytroll Been here awhile

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    Finally made a review of the Rally Raid kit for my CB500X 2019

  19. ktmmitch

    ktmmitch Long timer

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    Excellent work Sven !!
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  20. Twempie

    Twempie Been here awhile

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    I’ve just pulled the trigger on a Level 2 RR, and plan to add fork boots.

    Does anyone know of a US vendor that sells fork boots for the L2 Rally Raid forks? All I can find is Pyramid in the UK and some Chinese equivalents.

    My web search for “Motorcycle Fork Gaiters 42x60x250mm” in the US comes up blank, even Amazon doesn’t have them - does this mean I’ve reached the end of the internet :)
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