RATEL engineering design - BMW 650GS/Dakar/Sertao YZ/WR suspension upgrade

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  1. Aquatic

    Aquatic Long timer

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    Hey Barz

    Yes Sir I do.
    All the colours. Red, black,gunmetal,silver,blue.
    But I no longer do the H badge. Sorry

    Email me with your delivery details and I will give you the cost with shipping

    Craigkrantz@ratel.com.au

    Cheers Craig
  2. Snake Oiler

    Snake Oiler If the world didn't suck, we would all fall off

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    Hey Craig.

    Just came across your thread. Some nice looking products. Do you have some kind of catalog of products? I've got a X Challenge and might be interested some.

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  3. Gravel Seeker

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    About time you get that hosting issue sorted. SmugMug's been very kind to me since Shitbucket hijacked my pics and 10-15 online years of my life. Also, maybe change the title of the thread since you do so much more than just parts for suspension upgrades :thumb

    @Snake Oiler I can vouch for the quality of design and workmanship of the RATEL brand.

    Chain guide bracket (for easy to find Husqvarna chain guide) and case saver

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  4. AaronNT

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    Finally found time to start putting my bike together. A couple of photos:

    8mm neck spacer with 2001 YZ250 triple clamps.

    Caliper bracket, and redrilled BMW front disk mounted (Done by Aquatic) on Yamaha wheel.

    Aquatics parts are top notch and make it easy to do this conversion.[​IMG][​IMG]

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  5. wiz.au

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    So you use the original Yamaha axle/wheel spacers?
    Does that setup use the same caliper hanger as for the conversion axle?
    If we could find a 4mm x 320mm (or is it 300mm?) Motard disc for the Yammie hub....

    I just remembered why I don't like that (Yammie wheel with Motard disc) setup. The Yammie 6904 (37×20×9) wheel bearings are 'small' compared to BMW 6203 (40×17×12) bearings, or the 6004's (42×20×12) I'm using. The load values are considerably less. The 6904's may still be perfectly fine for the application, may just require more frequent changes (or maybe not) and the much heavier 12mm wide bearing BMW used may just be a parts economy thing. But until someone better than me does the engineering math, I'm staying with stronger bearings.
  6. UTTLC

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    I dropped off my new forks today to have them resprung and revalved. I mentioned to him that I was planning on raising the rear to bring the ride height back to level and he thought that might make the bike too tall for its weight as far as center of gravity is concerned. Do y’all have thoughts as to this? I could slide the forks up and keep the same height or raise the rear and level, or of course shorten the forks, which I hadn’t really considered before. Does the bike really become that much more cumbersome after lifting?


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  7. Aquatic

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    In my opinion, no. But then my riding abilities are no where near up there.
  8. Orbit adv

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    I'm interested in the axle kit and caliper hanger kit as I just purchased 2007 wr250f forks. Are these kits still in production?
  9. Gedrog

    Gedrog 1000 mile stare a 1000 stories to tell

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    These are options for Yammie disks but eye watering expect to pay £200 plus
    112065 Flame Floating Alu Disc 298 I have this one
    112296 Flame Floating Alu Disc 300
  10. jfgoodski

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    Still need to install the Case saver.

    Very nice stuff, much appreciated.
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  13. wiz.au

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  14. Sqiggle84

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    Hello. I have a set of 46mm Kayaba USD forks to fit to a 2006 F650gs Dakar. I would like to keep BMW front wheel and brake caliper (has ABS). DO you still make the Axle coversion kit, Caliper Hanger and rear swing arm raising link? Only new to this forum so not sure how to PM?? Cheers mate, hope to hear from you.
  15. Aquatic

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    Please email me - craigkrantz@ratel.com.au
  16. Rattfield

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    a solution like that would help me to fall in love with my sertao in offroad conditions. the original side-stand is shitty.
  17. GrizzLee

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    Oh know!!
    Problem with my Ratel case saver.

    Need some help here. Maybe Craig can chine in here as well and give me some confidence.

    I just returned from the Washington State Back Country Discover Route. I was cleaning my bike and discovered my case saver was blown out... looks like a rock got in there. The rigid design didn't allow for enough flexibility and it broke my case saver. I wasn't that concerned until I removed it and discovered the attach point in the engine was broke off. The bolts are all fine.

    I am at a loss on how to fix this now.

    I called my mechanic and he stated the case savers are too stout. Proabably going to put the oem plastic shit cover back on because its flexible and the case saver would be $150 plus shipping. Eek!!!

    They may be able to drill into the engine and re-thread, but, it has to be off-set. One person mentioned using JB Weld (metall).

    Any suggestions? Know of a local in or around Seattle area that has experience In fixing this sort of thing?

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  18. Aquatic

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    Hey Grizz

    Sorry to hear.
    Kind of hard to see and comment too much without seeing the bike.
    I dare say the plastic cover would possibly had the same result.

    You are the first person, that I'm aware of, that has managed to break a case saver.

    I would go with JBWeld to fix it.
    Try and find a M6 plastic screw that you can use as a plug to build around. A regular bolt with a teflon spray coating may also work.
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  19. GrizzLee

    GrizzLee RubiKon Adventures

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    Hmmm. Maybe plastic bolt in there as a permanent fixture. I'm going to "shop around" for a solution. My buddy and l like your kit. It works well. I'm hoping this is a one off event. hard to deal with on my new bike.

    I snapped a chain on my dakar. Picked up your chain guide which is great.
  20. Aquatic

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    Not a permanent fixture. Just a way to keep the threads in shape when you add JB weld