Replace stock BMW driving lights with Clearwater on a 2017 GSA??

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  1. JaredKirkman

    JaredKirkman All Rifles Matter

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    I have a 2017 TB GSA. Has anyone replaced their stock BMW LED driving/fog lights with more high powerful Clearwaters or equivalent?? I don't really need or want the added features or the additional hassle of installing a CanOpener, etc... I was really hoping for a simple plug and play replacement. Remove the stock ones, replace with brighter ones. Does that exist??

    Thank you fellas!

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  2. JimVonBaden

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    You can't just swap the lights. You have to use the canopener, or other wiring, if you want Clearwaters. I know of no plug and play replacement lights.
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  3. JaredKirkman

    JaredKirkman All Rifles Matter

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    Jim... that disappoints me... because I know you are the freaking man when it comes to these bikes and if you haven't seen it, then that shit doesn't exist! lol...

    Thank you for your response sir.
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  4. Switchglide12

    Switchglide12 Long timer

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    Can you change the wiring at end of clearwater lights make it plug and play?
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    JaredKirkman All Rifles Matter

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    If JVB says no... it's a no. lol
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  6. JustKip

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    Clearwater site is pretty specific about this. You NEED the Canopener
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    AdamChandler Ascending n00b Supporter

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    Well. You can buy a universal kit from Clearwater with a switch to mount on your handlebars.
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    Switchglide12 Long timer

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    of course they are they have to sell their product. More for their bottom line
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  9. JustKip

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    :csm

    They could sell you the non-canbus system, instead of letting you buy cheaper, plug and play LEDs from someone else...IF that would work
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  10. Tor

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    i suggest you leave your OEM's and hang your new Clearwaters on the crash bar somewhere, hooked up to a can opener. I bolted my Erica's on the front of the crash bars (19 mm dia.) on my 15 GSA. Kept my aux. lights.

    Just specify exactly where you want them when you order. I chose location on mine based on the amount of off-road riding I do. I wanted the lights to sit inside the main section of the crash bars.
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  11. JimVonBaden

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    I initially had the non-canbus system on my 2015. It worked fine, but the canbus is so much cleaner install that I switched to the canopener.
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    Assuming it came with its own adjustment controller, rather than using the wonderwheel like the canbus version?
    Either way, you can't use the stock fog light switch for anything other than a power source.
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    Correct on both counts.
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  14. canoeguy

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    I am just curious. I can't even use the stock lights most of the time as the bike is like the sun when they are all on. Do you really feel you need more than the stock fog lights? Maybe I am just used to shit lights on my old KLRs.
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  16. leafman60

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    You have other options that are better than Clearwater IMHO. Also, you do not NEED a fancy Canbus module to wire up a pair of lamps.

    I like the Rigid D series (HD) Driving. You get a heavier-duty, American-made pair of lights that put out as much light as Clearwater in most cases for about half the cost.

    Look around and don't rely solely on one or two opinions.

    All you have to have is a relay and some wire. Wire the relay to the battery and have it triggered and switched by another source.

    Having said that, I use a EZ Can module primarily because I also like having it control other items.

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    This is a relevant point to the CANbus controllers discussion here, but not directly addressing your question. I bought the CANswitch from Oomd, a vendor on this forum. It has a unique feature that the Canopener does not. It is highly programmable. Uses a ladder logic method like PLCs use. I love being able to change my default brightness, setup aux output for garage door opener, or do about anything you want within reason. Granted the ladder logic programming format has a bit of a learning curve, but once you get it figured out, it is nice to be able to customize. It comes from South Africa, and he makes them in batches, so can take a bit to get one. Oomd has been very helpful answering questions and making suggestions on programming.
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    EZ Can is also from South Africa. Must be a cottage industry there.
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    I went through all this last summer.

    My solution was to KEEP the BMW aux lights, they are nice. Then mounted CW Sevina on front crash bar extensions and Darla on the fork legs.

    And I of course used the Can Opener.

    Yes I know Rigid are cheaper. I can't speak to their performance but my CW setup is so bright I cannot have them on 100% if I am following a buddy even in broad daylight.

    I can say CW customer service is SPECTACULAR.

    WARNING - If you mount any of the CW larger than Darla in place of the BMW set, they are exposed in a crash!!!

    TR
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    Here is my setup while powered on. IMG_9541.jpg
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