Requesting Feedback on the Thread Index's Reorganization

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by meat popsicle, Jan 7, 2006.

  1. bikemoto

    bikemoto Tyre critic

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    :lol3 indeed!
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  2. Sycamore

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    to confuse things even more (if creating a n00b index) - there are 2 definitions (or classes) of n00b:
    1) new to AdvRider
    2) new to bikes....

    n00b to Adv wouldn't know what "Flanny's jetting guide" is.
    n00b to bikes wouldn't know what a jet is.
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  3. meat popsicle

    meat popsicle Ignostic

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    very true; so perhaps links to introductory materials would be useful? I have a carb guide in my Yahoo briefcase written by Dellorto that Creeper directed me to - good introductory info for someone new to bikes. Others are probably around that could also help in different areas.

    Although at some point they should consider getting some training before tearing into their bikes...
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  4. bikemoto

    bikemoto Tyre critic

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    Another point to note with links.

    Links containing page references are bad because the number of posts per page is user-configurable, thus making the position and number of page breaks non-universal.

    Links to a particular post always work and will achieve the same result.
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  5. Sycamore

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    True - n00bs to motorcycling will be unlikely to touch anything on their bike, I don't think the index thread has to cater to them.
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  6. bikemoto

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    That's a bit harsh. Everyone has to start somewhere; maybe this is it?

    And conversely, total n00bs have the most to learn and therefore the most to gain from the index. They may also do basic research and refer articles to a more knowledgeable helper.
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  7. meat popsicle

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    I think he meant n00bs to wrenching, and in that regard I agree. We shouldn't be so quick to say "you can do it!" without skill qualifiers like I see in Creeper's how-tos. In the same way it's innapropriate to throw out unqualified information regarding bikes ("My bike's the best; your's sucks!" :lol3) and modifications. Leading n00bs astray or into trouble is unkind.

    Good suggestion on the paged links; That is something that I should fix.
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  8. bmwktmbill

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    Hey Meat,
    I use the index all the time and the job you have done is a thing of beauty.

    Where I have the most problems is in doing a search. I don't have any control of how the search function works. On KTM talk you can dial the search in. We have that option. It just lists last to first in decending order. Can any thing be done?
    Bill in Tomahawk, WI
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  9. meat popsicle

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    Thanks Bill.

    Have you tried the Advanced Search? It's the link (unlabeled) underneath the text box that pops up when you click on Search. Just move your cursor to the bottom of that little window that pops up when you click on search and it will turn into a hand.
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  10. meat popsicle

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    warewolf has finished reformatting Part II of the index - it's lookin' good! now if only I could get down there to buy the guy a beer :evil

    New Zeland :tb
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  11. bikemoto

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    While reformatting the index I found out that this is not entirely true; there is a "pp" parameter which explicitly states the number of posts per page. So if you link to a page you should also use pp, for example:

    ...showthread.php?t=41674&page=3&pp=15
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  12. meat popsicle

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    Good eyes warewolf! But that might take quite a few bad movies to add onto the links... :lol3
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  13. bmwktmbill

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    Meat,
    Thanks for the tip on the advanced search. If you have a cure for computer ignorance please PM me.
    Bill.
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  14. meat popsicle

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    It starts with website's adequately labeling functions. The advanced search was labeled, but when Baldy did some work on the software the label disappeared. If you think its a big deal drop him a line in his forum down below ("ask baldy, blame fish").
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  15. Arch

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    The MOST users online that KTMtalk has ever logged is 392. At this very moment, ADVrider has 1382 users online. Notice that that's not the most we've had at one time (far from it), it's right at this very moment. KTMtalk currently has 1,440,073 posts stored. ADVrider has 2,873,120. If things continue at the current pace, we'll have roughly doubled our membership by this time next year. Something's gonna have to give.

    It's been talked about in the past, but to make a long story short, advanced search is somewhat hidden because it saps resources in a big way.

    Please help by using Google to search the site, as described in this help forum thread long ago.

    Oh, and thanks again to MP for his thread index efforts. :thumb
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  16. meat popsicle

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    Good info Arch - thanks for putting it in perspective. I could add a Google site search to the top of the index...

    Oh, and you're welcome mang. :smooch
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  17. meat popsicle

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    see my post at the end of the index for an update on the update. I'm tired...
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    There is a long overdue major update to the index in the works. I have been busy moving across the country, for nothing :bluduh, and then back again. Trying to get resettled right now...

    Anyways, I have gone through about a year of my own thread tracking and picking nominees for the index. But the index's two posts are full, so I was trying to go through them and select threads to "demote" into a third post. But I was having trouble, because I didn't have a good criteria for this whole business anyways. Surprised?

    The existing criteria is "essential" vs. "optional", but what is essential to one owner is not to many, many others. Heck, it might be essential to only one inmate! So last night while rappin' with Mrs. Popsicle about a related subject we came across a new criteria!

    New Criteria:

    Useful to All

    Useful to Many

    Useful to Some


    Of course something like a mainshaft bearing update is not useful to post 2002 owners, but it is useful to all pre-2003 owners, so things like that will be in the Useful to All category.
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  19. meat popsicle

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    Sucks to fall a year behind on that - just check out all the orange... those are the new additions! :arg

    So if I get bored again I will be going through the threads and demoting some more down (so I can promote some up that are worthy). While I am at it I might add a blurb to each link, starting with Post #1. That was a very smart fella's recommendation a long time ago; I haven't forgotten bud. :beer
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  20. Bill 310

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    Great Job.:clap

    It is apparent from all your hard work that the KTM thumper is deserving of it's own forum.

    I vote yes to KTM Thumper Forum
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