Rescuing a ttr225

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  1. Puregonzo279

    Puregonzo279 Ms wanderer

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    Well, I had a friend send me a picture the other day of a cheap bike someone had listed on Facebook for real cheap . So I came home and let the wife know I had decided to spend what little money we had saved on a project. She wasn't happy. But what can she Do? 20180814_172659.jpg
    So I brought this nasty thing home for the high price of 320 dollars . We had to drag it to the truck. I assumed because the chain was so rusted that it just wouldn't budge. You know how it goes the guy said it ran when he parked it because he snapped a clutch cable . I got it back to my grandfather's house and we decided to take the chain off to see if we could get it to roll. After removing the chain the back tire still refused to roll. It would move a little but seemed seized. It took us over an hour and nearly a half a can of wd40 to get the rear axle out and when we did I found out why it wasn't moving. The brakes had adhered to the inside of the drum. So I just took em out and threw them away.
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    Puregonzo279 Ms wanderer

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    So this thing has been sitting for a year and a half according to him. He claims it ran when he parked it, but , who knows. Th plastics are rough and there is some rust on the frame , but I figure I can tear this thing down get it fixed up and make a few dollars and have some fun in the process . The way I figured it in the moment was , brakes , chain, carb rebuild, battery and some miscellaneous things here and there and I should come out in top. I guess we will find out .
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    Puregonzo279 Ms wanderer

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    I couldn't wait to tear into this . So I did. I wasn't able to work on it for very long that first day , because well. It was our anniversary , and she was already a little perturbed that I had spent most of our savings on what she called junk . But I did get it torn down later that night. I removed the seat, rear fender and back tire so I could remove the air box. I was not happy when I did. The entire thing was FULL of water. When I removed the exhaust . Water in it as well. I was sweating at this point. Because my wife may have been right. I had to stop what I was doing and take her on an anniversary date. So....
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    Puregonzo279 Ms wanderer

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    Fast forward to way way later that night and I got the gas tank off and they had left the petcock valve on the entire time it had been sitting and the gas was really bad. I hope this carb is rebuildable. Any suggestions for cleaning it before a rebuild to ensure it will work properly ?
    Well I also took the crank cover off and pit a socket on there. Removed the spark plug and turned it over and water shot out. So I'm gonna take the top end off to see how bad it is . Hopefully not too bad. 20180816_025908.jpg
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    Puregonzo279 Ms wanderer

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    It's not too bad I don't think . What do you all think ? There wasn't much water that came out and there wasn't any water in the oil. I think the rings are still good and the engine seemed to be nearly at TDC. I think it may be ok after all . It was sitting right under the eve of the house. I think it just collected rainwater.
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    GR0NK Got some screws loose!

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    I cleaned the top of the piston off . The more I think about it. The more I worry about the fact that the front chain sprocket is moving freely . If the clutch cable snapped and it was in hear it wouldn't be moving freely. I guess there is only one way to find out really. 20180816_044501.jpg
    This whole bike is rough, I am letting the air box and other plastics soak in some dawn and water. I hope this will make it easier to clean. I was not able to do this with the tank however and just had to spend over an hour and some elbow grease to get this cleaned off best I can. 20180816_045449.jpg
    Not too shabby. I have to wait for a few days before I can start ordering parts. I turned the bike upside down to remove the engine cradle and some other things off the frame and noticed that the front wheel is either bent or it isn't true. I don't really know how to tell the difference. However it does have a slight wobble. So something is wrong. Anyone got one for sale ?
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    20180828_201959.jpg this whole thing is pretty nasty. And I don't know if I should just paint the frame or leave it alone. There is a lot of rust on certain parts of the frame and other parts. 20180828_203453.jpg 20180828_203513.jpg especially this one particular piece of the frame. The rest is surface rust from the paint rubbing off but that one part is starting to bubble . 20180828_204427.jpg The brake lever and a few other parts are pretty rusty as well. So I mixed up a clr bath for them and let them soak for a while. I have never uses it before so I'm anxious to see how well it works. I also gave the frame a bath before knocking off this surface rust with a wire brush.
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    15355163312021622604797.jpg 20180828_230603.jpg There a the frame after a bath. That blue is so pretty I am afraid to paint it. But I don't really know any other route to take to save the frame. I could have it powder coated a similar color but I don't know how much that costs for one. And two I don't know of anywhere locally that does it . I may just put an enamel on the frame and clear coat it. I don't want to sink a lot of money into this build anyway. It is after all just a ttr and these bikes are everywhere around here.
    I wonder how upset my wife would be if I painted it fixed it and kept it for myself ? I have a friend (the same one that sent me the pic of the bike to begin with) that wants me to ride the TAT north mississippi loop with him. I think it'll be fun. So I guess the next step will be figuring out what color to paint the frame after I get it sanded down and get this rust off of it. It'll probably hurt resale if I paint it anything other than blue. But they usually only bring around a thousand bucks anyway. Decisions , decisions.
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    TUCKERS the famous james

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    I'm doing a XT225 right now. I've come to the conclusion I ought to have bought a nicer bike to begin with. It's a ton of work and what do you have at the end? The same amount of work put in to something else could yield WAY more return. I will say it is fun to work on though....like a toy...everything is so small.
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    TUCKERS the famous james

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    I wouldn't paint it. Just rub the frame with a rag soaked in oil.
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    TUCKERS the famous james

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    8D0B2075-2FF1-40CF-A459-6FB8F4D79F88.jpeg Mine on the rack. I spent $80 on the carb alone. Chain, exhaust, sprockets, air filter, oil and oil filter.....oh my......
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    Puregonzo279 Ms wanderer

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    That's a pretty bike. They are a lot of fun to tinker with. I guess it's more about that than the return anyway right ?
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    I kind of already stripped some of the paint off the frame. In the midst of it my grinder got really really hot. And I had to stop. I took it apart and there was a huge mess inside and all the grease inside was all on one side. So I moved it around and put it back together. 20180829_004209.jpg also picked up a new piercing. 20180829_003410.jpg
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    Oh well. Paint the frame KTM orange.
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    Not so sure about that. Investing in a project to flip isn't tinkering. A frame up restoration isn't tinkering. Even this cosmetic restoration I am doing with engine in frame will have me way further invested than if I bought a nicer bike to begin with.
    I was a vehicle dealer most of my life. If you can flip with the least amount of work that's how you make money. Some vehicles are B E R...….'Beyond Economical Renovation'...….we intend on using these bikes a while.....so I hope to enjoy the money put out and then knock that off any future sales price. If you make a page of expenses you will most likely find parts purchases alone strip away your profit/break even. As for time spent.....you'll likely be negative or make 1c per hour!
    I ought to know better. I just bought this bike sight unseen and didn't inspect it enough....today I wouldn't buy it...I'd look for something nicer.
    Poppy always said "you are NEVER in trouble with a nice low miles machine'
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    Puregonzo279 Ms wanderer

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    All truth. If it gets me out of the house and keeps my hands busy. I'm all about it just don't pass on all your profit margin info to my wife. Lol
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    TUCKERS the famous james

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    Fortunately my Mrs shares my passion for motorcycles! She has a 2008 BMW R1200GS, a 1994 BMW R1100RSL and the 2000 Yamaha XT225 (at the moment).
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    20180829_012708.jpg This is the swing arm before I was able to get a hold of it. Just a little surface rust here and there. Nothing real major . It took an hour and a half or so to knock all the rust and excess paint off. 20180829_064947.jpg before paint 20180829_105816.jpg after paint.
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    20180829_013356.jpg coil pack before I cleaned it up a bit. 20180829_014234.jpg after. 20180829_020051.jpg same rusty story with the muffler. Most of these parts look the same and it is taking a similar process to clean them up so I will post mainly some pictures till I run into some issues that require further explainantion. A lot of this bike is going to be salvageable . I brought the frame with me to work today because we have been slow and I would be sitting here doing nothing anyway so I figured I could kill two birds with one stone. Or something like that.
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