I'd agree, if you want zero vibes then a 6 cyl is about your only choice. but...... a nice 90 deg V-twin has some sweet spots where it's nearly vibe free. Well..... I went back to the local shop and talked to a more senior sales person plus I showed up on the Strom with the wife. I was able to take a short (~7 mile) test ride on the 2012 they had. It's a "new" bike, the Odo showed less than 20 something miles on it. I'm REALLY glad I got the chance to ride this bike. It is substantially better than the 2009 I rode. Maybe part of that is proper setup, part upgraded specs, etc... but this is a bike I could own, for sure. The "thudding" through the bars was almost none existent and there was definitely more bottom end torque. Compared to my Strom it idles vibey but after that it's very similar in vibes, I'd say smoother in the upper reaches of the rev band. My wife rode with me and she said it felt smoother than the Strom to her. She also liked the wider seat, otherwise her comment was it was very similar feeling from a passenger's view point. She really liked the bike, very dangerous.... I did notice the heat from the left cylinder, the extra inch or so of space between the left and right side seems to make a difference, it reminded me of riding my old Airhead BMW, kinda nice in cold weather. I only noticed it when were were dawdling along on city streets. Out on the freeway I didn't notice it. I was a little surprised at the first gear ratio, it was higher than I thought it might be based on what's been written here. I think it could be a little lower still, it's definitely geared tall overall, should be good for those high speed runs through the desert The brakes have more bite than the Strom, I had to pay attention to not apply too much and slam her into me. I did notice what SM mentioned about it being a little cold blooded at the start, very much like an old carb'd bike. This kinda surprised me as most FI bikes don't do that cuz EPA doesn't regulate the start up. Once it was up to temperature I didn't notice any errant fueling, I suspect it could be a little crisper off the bottom with some mapping but I think it's more than refined enough for me. I wouldn't go running to have a remap right away .... if ever. It's much better than the stock map in my Strom. The view from the riders position around the tank area is very similar to the Strom, nearly the same tank width and contours and then it tapers smaller as you view forward. It doesn't have the large area surrounding the dash like the Strom, I like that better, it gives you a better view of the road. Wind flow seemed pretty good, I didn't notice any major buffeting, a relief. But it was a short ride so I didn't get to really test that out behind some trucks etc. I wonder how different it feels with a full tank of gas? Any comments about that from you owners? The fuel light was flashing on my so I'm guessing it was pretty dang low. Yet when I shook the bike side to side it sounded like quite a bit of fuel was in it. I have mixed emotions about the OEM luggage. It's REALLY wide with the racks they used and I'm not sure if I like those boxes better than my Happy Trails boxes or not, they don't seem as sturdy but close in size I think. I kinda wish you could buy the bike without the luggage and deduct the price so I could choose my own options there. I think the rest is just fine, I like the skid plate and engine protection bars. The extra lights are nice but I'd leave them off if it saved some $$$. I think the stock twin headlights would be sufficient for me. I think it would definitely come down to either the Stelvio or the Tenere and I'm leaning towards the Stelvio. I certainly liked the more direct throttle control better and I like the feel of the engine better, both in "feel" and powerband. The Tenere is kinda flat above about 6k rpm while the Guzzi keeps on going. The mid range seemed pretty similar. It's kinda hard to judge from idle to say 3k rpm because the Tenere's electronics mucks about with the response so you're not really getting what you expect to get, stupid. I think the Stelvio appears less bulky from the riders view, very similar to the Tiger 800XC. I like the fact that there's no radiator on the side if the bike tips over. At least the radiator on my Strom is fairly protected even without any bars. The service work is definitely easier than on the Strom. I miss my old BMW for that. The bottom line, I think a 2012+ Stelvio may very well end up in the garage some time in the maybe not too distant future.