Rickman and all things Metisse.

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by Wildebeest90210, Nov 5, 2015.

  1. Garry Mayfield

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    Traderyoda, no photos; you stated concern about the wheels that you would expect to see mag hub and 19" front. Now, first off there is a lot of information in the two Rickman books, but not to details as I would like, plus several hundred serial/order entries are missing. With the information I can amass from personal observation and the books I have an idea on the hub deal. It goes like this; mag hubs were available early 1967. Before that British Hub Company Motoloy 6 hubs were commonly used by Rickman and continued in use to individual orders. Motoloys are displayed on the Rickman brochures right up through the 1967 model release. Some individual kit builders or orders used REH (as seen on the #66x BSA above), others QD or many types of standard British hubs. The 1970 Rickman micros both Hodaka and Zundapp came with mag hubs. The 1971 and up Hodaka, Zundapp, and Montesa had the new Rickman aluminum conical hubs. I've seen both mag and aluminum on the Yamaha kit bikes you referenced. The 4-stroke MK III and MK IV kits or complete usually had mag hubs if they came from Steens. Others used whatever they had I guess.

    Now, to the point; the British Hub Company Motoloy 6 that is on the back of your MZ is probably the original fitment. Here's why; The Motoloy 6 is a cush drive hub. Lynn, an ISDT guy would have liked that to take the snatch out of the chain improving transmission, chain, and wheel spoke life. The front wheel would be a 21" for its better trail manners and light handling. The front hub well, if that MZ was made after 1970 the Rickman aluminum conical hub would be a natural choice and if made before 1970 it was probably retrofitted from a Motoloy to that Rickman aluminum conical hub.
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  2. traderyoda

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    Now, to the point; the British Hub Company Motoloy 6 that is on the back of your MZ is probably the original fitment. Here's why; The Motoloy 6 is a cush drive hub. Lynn, an ISDT guy would have liked that to take the snatch out of the chain improving transmission, chain, and wheel spoke life. The front wheel would be a 21" for its better trail manners and light handling. The front hub well, if that MZ was made after 1970 the Rickman aluminum conical hub would be a natural choice and if made before 1970 it was probably retrofitted from a Motoloy to that Rickman aluminum conical hub.[/QUOTE]

    That's a BIG help. I thought about the cush hub idea and then wondered why Lynn didn't opt for an MZ centerline rear brake hub; but your explanation makes a lot of sense. Plus the rear hub and tire are well used. The MZ was built in August 1970 (the motor arrived in June looking at the paperwork). The aluminum front hub sports the "R" logo vs. "Rickman" on the brake plate. I thought that the modernized "R" logo didn't show up until 1971, but I could be wrong. The aluminum hub, fresh rim, and brand new tire caught my attention as it looked out of place given that Lynn clearly rode the bike a good deal. I'll go through my Steens stuff and see if I can better nail down when the new logo was first used. If it was after the bike was built that might give me a hint. Many thanks!
  3. motu

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    That sidecar I posted was powered by a '72 A65 Thunderbolt. Originally an A10, someone had modified the lower frame rail to fit a single, so was going to fit one of my B31/33 engines...but even with Goldy bits would still be under powered. I toyed with fitting my 750 Combat engine, but it was a tight fit in the modified BSA frame, so went with the A65. The only other photo, taken the same day.

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    The guys I sold it to ran it in Classic racing for years, they had to fit 18'' wheels to qualify...it was on 16''s with racing rubber when I had it. Totally illegal, lights fitted but no wiring...good for hooning around the neighbourhood. That's my old engine, they moved it forward a bit. now an 850 with a proper timing side bearing.

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  4. motu

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    While I was looking for the sidecar pics, I found this one, seen at a swapmeet a few years ago.

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  6. Garry Mayfield

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    (sorry, I didn't backtrack to your actual project page :cry )
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    Thats MUCH nicer than my bike!
  9. traderyoda

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    Based on Wildebeest90210's observations, I take it you purchased your wonderful machine from New Jersey, USA. If so, here are the folks that originally built you machine:

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    This is John and Bobby Genise of Johns Cycle Center in Queen, NYC. They've been British specialists forever. John passed a few years back but I believe Bobby still runs the shop which is a NYC icon. Your machine was put together by their technician Donnie; he built three A65 MkIIIs in the basement workshop. The first one was red and it was purchased by the owner of nearby Action Motors Yamaha dealership. When he sold the dealership the red Rickman passed to Sal DeFeo of Ghost Motorcycles on Long Island. It was later purchased by a Rickman aficionado and restorer in Massachusetts that did a beautiful restoration to a desert machine. The Blue bike was never really ridden. It wound up in the hands of a car and motorcycle collector in Pennsylvania. I purchased it from his collection in 1985 and have been taking care of it ever since. You know the history of the white machine - ridden well and tended to by a guy who really appreciated it. I mentioned on the forum that I understand these motors were Dick Mann bottom ends built my Manfred Hecht of NYC. My engine has his name etched inside the engine case which confirms it was his handiwork. I did nothing to Donnie's build except install a Typanium ignition which eliminates the battery and kicks out a huge spark that makes starting a breeze - two kicks max. I know you'll enjoy many miles of enjoyment with your beautiful and rare A65!
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    Excellent! Thank you, I will add the video to the build thread
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    From the cafe' racer picture thread... at Barber Motorcycle Museum:

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    I can't remember if I've posted this before:

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    I like the way some one has annotated the cock 'n balls with the word penis just in case you didn't know. Must be a posh school!
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  20. Garry Mayfield

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    Traderyoda, more information, possibly two with MZ engine; do you know somebody name Liam?