Ridaho GRIT 3 planning

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  1. BokaRoka

    BokaRoka It always seems like a good idea

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    Sooo, a few friends and I have decided we want to tackle Ridaho GRIT 3 in 2020. Been reading through several ride reports of guys that have successfully ran the loop, all of us have run the KAT (Kentucky Adventure Tour) on the east-side of the US once or twice and thoroughly enjoyed it. I would say on average our group is at a mid-B rider level so hopefully we survive. A couple of questions:

    - What time of the year should we be planning on doing this so that it's not too hot we suffer from heat-stroke but avoid the snow as well at elevation? I'm thinking June - August time-frame. We plan to camp out-side but also don't mind hotel/motel accommodations
    - Max gas says its 125 mi for the GRIT 3 loop. I presume that is referring to dual sport style miles and not say single track, 2 of us are on Beta's that currently have 2 gallon tanks, we will be upgrading to the 3 or 4 gal aftermarket tank before the trip to ensure we can make 100+ mi sections.
    - Is there decent cell reception throughout the loop? I plan to use my Iphone as a GPS with the GPX routes on Motion X.
    - We will be making the trec from Michigan to get out there, yes it's a hell of a long ways away. Where would be a allowable place for us to leave our vehicles while we run the loop? Also, does anyone recommend running the loop in a certain direction?

    Anything else we should know from a planning standpoint?
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    jonz Miles are my mantra Supporter

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    From what I've read, waiting until August is usually the way to go so the locals with chainsaws have cleared much of the downed timber. Some rider groups are even carrying one chainsaw for the group. Grit 3 has the highest percentage of single track of all the GRIT rides iirc so I wouldn't assume mileage you get on dual sport rides would be comparable. Cell reception??? Probably mostly non existent but the gps in your cell phone will work just fine without reception if you have the maps and tracks downloaded. Make sure your camping gear is the minimal possible weight and bulk.

    I'd recommend asking these questions on the R'idaho facebook page and in the Pacific Northwet regionnal thread for more answers. The Ridaho guys are very helpful
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  3. OrangeYZ

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    Sweet!
    You gon die :D

    A: Depends on how winter is.
    2: The loop can be 99% clear of snow, but that 1% could be in a place that ruins your day.
    D: Take into consideration that it's 6 months away and I'm not really paying attention to how winter is going, but end of July is the earliest I would say "Zero percent chance of snow anywhere." Beginning of June there will definitely be snow in a few places. Then the trees...

    In the example of 125 total miles between gas stations, 65 of it is trail, 60 of it is road/dirt road

    Uh uh. The towns are usually good, but you can easily go all day and not get any.

    At most motels "I'd like a room for tonight and again in 5 days, can I park my truck here in the mean time?" will get a yes.

    Counterclockwise. The directions are written that way, there's no great reason to switch it around, and a couple of steep and loose reasons not to switch it around.

    Get your big tanks installed way earlier than the day before you leave and go on some rides to make sure everything works.
    Take a lap around a motocross track and make sure your camping gear doesn't fall off.
    Boise, Sawtooth and Salmon are the national forests you might want to get USFS maps of.
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  4. BokaRoka

    BokaRoka It always seems like a good idea

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    Thanks for the feedback! I read through your RR, looks like a hell of a time. Thanks for all the effort documenting it. Are Razor's edge and Cinnabar trails as intimidating as they look all the way through them or just the few hairy sections?
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    :nod

    Razor's edge is pretty much no shit crazy for the 3 or 4 miles of trail on top.
    Cinnabar isn't as death-defying, but it's tough and there aren't many easy spots to coast and catch your breath.
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    BokaRoka It always seems like a good idea

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    Good to know, what did you guys do for lunch? Trail side snack you carried with you throughout the day or town lunch stop?
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  7. Sootgrinder

    Sootgrinder Been here awhile

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    Will be watching this thread. I'm wanting to do this ride in summer 2021 if i can talk a friend or two into going along. I hope you do a ride report, or at least follow up in this thread with tips and lessons learned about this particular route. Thanks, Soot.
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  8. BokaRoka

    BokaRoka It always seems like a good idea

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    Bumping this back up, plan is formulating. The team is registering on the roster and we will be riding this first week of August.

    Anyone been out there yet this year to relay status of trails/conditions?
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    I would think that fuel would be an issue that would worry me. I know how mpg my hogs get and even with big tanks would not do 100 miles. Especially the way I like to ride.
    How far can you go on a beta with 4 gallons?
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  10. BokaRoka

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    Riding true dual-sport I've gotten 65 - 100 miles out of the stock tank (2.3 gal). I will be going with a 3.1 gal IMS tank and a 1 gallon AUX rotopax. I'm hoping that will be enough, just can't swallow $400 for a 4 gal tank (1.7 gal over stock)
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    Ended up getting a 4 gallon tank for the Beta instead, will be installing it shortly. This trip is going to be postponed until Spring of 2021 due to some of the inmates falling ill during COVID-19 as of late. Anyone know what's the earliest we could successfully go out there and avoid the snow at elevation? May / June too early to shoot for?
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    Way to early. If your way wasn't blocked by snow, it would be blocked by downed timber as that's before all the trail crews have had enough time to clear the trails
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    Thanks for that! When do you think would be safe to target - July / August?
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    jonz Miles are my mantra Supporter

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    August. The R'idaho guys are the best source of up to date trail info
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    Kent Glasscock Been here awhile

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    Best to all riders. It's on my bucket list. I know the KTM seems to be the main bike. For those trying to go the cheaper but dependable rout have people done it on any of the four stroke 250 CC's? Was looking at the wr250f, crf250x, 230 or 250 klx. I know one doing it on a DR350 but he's a retired pro. I'm more of an intermediate and need to practice. Plan is 2022. Thanks
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  16. BokaRoka

    BokaRoka It always seems like a good idea

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    August 2021 it is! One of our crew will be running this on his WR250R but the things I’ve seen him do in that bike is incredible, 2 Betas and 2 KTMS. Should make for a nice 5some
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    jonz Miles are my mantra Supporter

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    Just as an fyi, the first group I heard of this year finished the 4 day version of GRIT 3 in the last day or so. Also fyi, they carried at least one chain saw
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    It is going to be hot. August is toasty in Idaho. Right now it is approaching 100 in the valleys. Consider water management. I have been surprised by the complete lack of water, even in the valleys of large drainages.

    Also, keep an eye on wildfires. Quiet now but this can change quickly.

    I travel with a sat-phone. Expensive but much of Idaho mountains do not have cell coverage. So far it has been a convenience for me to keep in touch with my wife. But, I have been able to accelerate the rescue of others injured in crashes. You can get a long way away from help...

    Sounds like you are doing your homework. Mostly...have fun.
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    I did it as a group of 2 the end of July and it was hot at times but awesome. We carried a saw and needed it that early in the summer. We did it as a 4 day version skipping the trek out to Challis and back but doing all the tests.

    I went back and did it solo over the labor day weekend. It was still hot at times but it was much better for trail conditions and out of habit I carried my chainsaw but only cut 6 or 7 trees and a silky hand saw would have been fine for them as well.

    However I finished the day the weather changed and a front came through blowing down a bunch of trees and kicking up a couple of fires that affected riders who were doing the Grit3 route just days after i finished.

    Next year I will do a Grit3 + Grit2 combo or the Grit1 in the later half of August.

    Cell coverage is very spotty - particularly in the trails around Stanley. I carried an InReach with me to let friends track my progress and to stay in touch with the world while out of coverage.
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