Riding During Covid-19

Discussion in 'Americas' started by ncj01, Apr 6, 2020.

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Will you Ride?

  1. Grip it and Rip it

    35 vote(s)
    27.3%
  2. Stay at home no matter what

    15 vote(s)
    11.7%
  3. You're an irresponsible tool

    5 vote(s)
    3.9%
  4. It depends on the conditions in your geography

    73 vote(s)
    57.0%
  1. wadethewanderer

    wadethewanderer To infinity and beyond. Supporter

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    While on a Sunday afternoon ride of about 160 miles, backroads, no contact with others, no traffic, had time to think about a couple of issues. (1) The thought of the possibility of putting additional strain on an already overloaded healthcare system. After contemplating for a few miles, I found myself being super careful and observant of my surroundings, more so than normal, and in short measure, headed back to the hacienda. (2) Remembering how much I love to plan for trips and more pointedly, the ones I didn't take. In the future, whenever this pandemic subsides to whatever "normal" is, I definitely will be following-thru on some of the trip planning. Never taking the freedom of roaming this beautiful country of ours for granted again.
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  2. kantuckid

    kantuckid Long timer

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    For a skilled rider the odds have gotten much better lately. One look at the news and you'll see there's nobody out there! The largest malls in our nearest city 1.5 hours away was pictured in yesterdays newspaper with ONE! car in the parking lot and that was a security cop.
    Even in my rural area where we NEVER have much traffic, it's slower yet and almost ghost like. No school buses, mostly the work commuters is it aside from the rare grocery getters. I live a couple miles from a rock quarry and the road jobs are ongoing but not as many trucks as usual for warm weather breaking.
    Back to the riding odds-they are immensely improved and for me the likely hood of an accident and ER visit is virtually nil.
    Tomorrow is our weekly grocery run which will be done before 7 a.m. when shelves have been filled and aisles are mostly empty. The worst part of early a.m. trips for us is that means no pizza, which when you live in no pizza land (or any other restaurants!) is not good.
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  3. oldmanb777

    oldmanb777 Just say NO to socialism! It's a bad drug!

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    I have certainly curtailed my riding. The truck is also getting 3 gallons to the week now, instead of 15 miles to the gallon. We are staying at home as much as possible. Staying in our own germs, and trying as best we can to avoid giving our germs to anyone else. The times I have been on the road, drivers are very distracted. They are just not thinking clearly, or thinking about covid-19. So while I road out to some country roads a bit, scrubbed in some new tires. I was extremely aware of others. I saw more of the usual lane changes without looking. Much higher speeds than normal, whitch is usually more than most can handle anyway. So even though traffic is lighter than normal, there are still idiots out there driving. I think I have reduced my riding by 90% and probably 80% less driving the cages. I don't want to overwhelm the system, and I don't want to be in the germ incubation factory for something minor.
    I will have to get on the roof to hook up the Swamp cooler before long. That's always scary at my age.
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  4. Schroeder

    Schroeder Schroeder

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    I am still riding my motorcycles and the wife and I take the Jeep out for backcountry excursions! I am riding very conservative and just taking in the scenery! When I gas up my Jeep I bring all my gas cans and fill them for the bikes too. I keep my rides under 250miles with no public stops for fuel or food. With gas at home I minimize exposure from the gas station. At the pumps I use disposable dog poop bags on my hands and hand sanitizer immediately afterwards. I am trying to be responsible but I will continue to ride!
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  5. rkover1

    rkover1 doc

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    Out here in Hawai'i, it depends on which island you're on.

    On Kaua'i, there is a nighttime curfew. And there are checkpoints on the highway (there is only one) to ensure that people don't travel outside their home areas without permission or legitimate reason. You WILL be arrested and/or fined. Maui and O'ahu are considering similar checkpoints.

    Here on the Big Island, traffic is down by over half. And though we don't yet have checkpoints, people who are stopped or otherwise encounter LEOs are having the charge of violating the stay at home order added to whatever infraction they may have initially committed.

    I retired last November so my commuting miles have dropped to zero. Though I do occasionally take a short ride around Kona, they are becoming less frequent.

    Luckily, Hawai'i's geographic isolation seems to be helping in keeping our numbers relatively low. But we cannot be certain that it will stay that way. We will be under the stay at home order at least through the end of April. After that? Who knows?

    Be safe.

    doc
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  6. klaviator

    klaviator Long timer Supporter

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    My biggest concern about riding is crashing and needing medical help. In 40 years of riding I have yet to be hospitalized due to a riding accident but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen to me. I am limiting my riding to local rides on relatively "safe" roads and then riding very carefully. I also ride my bicycle for exercise. That is probably just as dangerous as riding my motorcycle or scooter.

    I think that whether or not or how to ride will vary by person and geographical area. For example, in many areas medical personnel are being laid off due to low number of patients. There is a lot of hospital capacity here and very few CV patients.

    Anyway, unless they are stunting or riding stupid I won't judge other people if they decide to ride.
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  7. oldmanb777

    oldmanb777 Just say NO to socialism! It's a bad drug!

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    On the news,,,,,,,,,,,,,, LEO took a pix of the speed camera. 102 mph in an F-150. I think I know the road. Might be fun in some performance cars with no one on the road. But its a twisty 2 lane mountain road. LEO's say they are writing more high speed tickets than ever before. And this is Colorado, they don't give many tickets for speeding here, at least not on the interstates. And you must be doing something pretty ridiculous on most state highways. Local towns are diferant, they give tickets for speeding. So the irresponsible idiots are still out there, just now on steroids'. The roads may be less crowded, but that may allow for more danger.
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  8. kantuckid

    kantuckid Long timer

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    The same small area hospital that operates our county rural clinic has laid off much of their staff or re-assigned them. I got an email today stating that if a person has the "set of symptoms" they can drive to Morehead near the hospital for drive-by covid tests from the car.
    Old man's comments on drivers being antsy, etc., hit home as we did Walmart today at 7 a.m. opening and many shoppers there and Kroger's are indeed a bit "funny acting", not just shying away distance wise but furtive eye movements, quirky behaviors were seen by me in both stores.
    Pre-occupation must be rampant among many people right now as bills pile up, kids at home all day with them trying to work, etc..
    My niece does the powerpoint aspects of the KY governors evening news, public TV announcements and that's with two young boys pulling on her.
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  9. Markhp

    Markhp Adventurer

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    Many good points being made on this topic. Where I live the # of Wuhan Virus cases has escalated considerably. And, Just heard our local hospitals are laying off lots of support staff Not needed for elective surgeries etc! That’s not a good combination if you’re incoming - off of the pavement.
    Also, I believe both the Major shops near me are closed, so if you breakdown or blow a tire there’s that issue to deal with.
    This really sucks. I did go out a couple times last week & riding when the traffic volume is 30% was wonderful. However I think I’m going to stay put from now on. It’s a very difficult decision really....
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  10. Cal

    Cal Long timer

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    Unfortunate event for me on last Wed. loading firewood my heart rate went up to 260 beats per minute, ambulance ride and emergency visit. The doctors and nurses stated that they were bored and welcomed a real emergency. I had 2 cardiologists at my service and they got to the heart of the matter immediately lol No wearing of masks by any of the people who worked on me! First hand experience! Home now.
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  11. kantuckid

    kantuckid Long timer

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    My 5th cortisone knee shot is due in mid May but canceled until mid June by ortho doc. Our nearest hospital laid off 300 which is a huge number in a small town 25k from us! Another main hospital in east KY laid off 500, that ones the coalfields provider, where many are already out of work from coal mining being dead.
    260 beats should make firewood job go faster? :dunno:hide
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  12. Meet@Trudys

    Meet@Trudys Adventurer

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    Glad you made it home safely!
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  13. oldmanb777

    oldmanb777 Just say NO to socialism! It's a bad drug!

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    Layoffs of medical staff? Seems odd, when trained medical professionals are in short supply in so many places. So is it no elective procedures/surgeries?
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  14. Cal

    Cal Long timer

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    The on call Doctor told me emergency visits were down 50% and that elective procedures were mostly cancelled.
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  15. kantuckid

    kantuckid Long timer

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    A few staff were reassigned but this has taken place all over the country and the money source for much of other stuff they cannot collect on. My orth doc does hips and knees and his office called to cancel me as did my annual eye doc who offered a tele visit which I rejected. Kinda hard to check for an eye issue over a phone and my visits have remained routine so far, 20/20 @ age 76 and too few floaters and zero catracs so I'll wait.
    I wonder how health insurers will come out on this? If they don't have to pay on my joints and I manage to avoid covid, thats money in their pockets? Of course the lawyers are plotting to collect on covid services?
    As it stands we may have a bunch of temp hospitals go unused? Rural hospitals have been closed by the hundreds in USA before covid.
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  16. Dirty bike

    Dirty bike EricV

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    I'm staying home and not riding for a couple of reasons. My wife is high risk and I don't want to inadvertently bring something home to her. And it's just a societal responsibility. The more people out, the more people think it's ok to go out. Not all of those people will behave well.

    Here's another data point for everyone to consider. Iceland has tested 10% of their entire population. More than any other country, including China. That works out to 100,000 per million for the statistics folks.

    So what did they learn? The big thing was that 50% of the people that tested positive had no symptoms and didn't know they had it, but were contagious. Many of those people never got sick. But they are still transmitting it to others. They know this because they aggressively trace all cases back to the sources. Their population is pretty small by US standards, but this is a window on what's really going on in any given population with COVID-19. They also learned that they still don't really understand all the ways it's being transmitted from person to person. They still don't fully understand why some people get minor symptoms and others go critical.
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  17. texas123

    texas123 Been here awhile

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    I think I was just on that road February. Is that Scenic Byway 7 in Arkansas & does that dirt road end at a cemetary?
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  18. HeadShrinker

    HeadShrinker Long timer Supporter

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    This week was full of brilliant riding. 679AAAA7-0B9B-4C07-918C-8337350A94D5.jpeg 131BC729-65F1-44E7-92AF-78AEE2A1BEE3.jpeg 8FD2132B-916B-4194-90CA-0CD84435709B.jpeg E25A3D47-0C3A-48B2-918B-F5F8F2B5D9FD.jpeg C01C5070-A828-44CA-828E-7519A29963AE.jpeg Roads were clear, trails tasty, and no one else around.
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  19. kantuckid

    kantuckid Long timer

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    In KY I read of a rural county which had two county health dept. staff assigned to tracking known positives. It stated that they became unable to do so once they'd reached 37 positive people in that county due to shear numbers involved. If that's the realistic level of tracking possibilities for two full time staff, I fail to see how Iceland could have enough people to track their all their positives, even with a small population?
    My wife is a caretaker to a 96 yr old alzheimers Mom, and when you try to track the very few people who care for my MIL in her home it gets to be a huge number really fast with no positives involved-they hope!
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  20. Branchbuster

    Branchbuster Long timer

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    Then there is the false positive and false negative problem and the issues with improperly trained folks not even testing correctly! So you don't really know if you have, or have had it at all.We are way behind the learning curve on this compared to S. Korea and China. I intend to take precautions and keep riding away from everyone. Pack my PBJ, fuel up outside with latex gloves. Piss by the roadside. If you cant stand it at home it is better to get a ticket than get crazy and whack someone I think. The gas stations need the work, you are keeping someone in business and a worker paid.
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