I've been using a pair of Scorpion Covert for a few years now and they're OK. Seems like they stretched a lot so now my knee guards are shin guards and I have to wear suspenders in conjunction with a belt to keep my pants from falling down. I do like the cut; no skinny jeans stuff going on. I'm an Alpinestars whore but seems like A* jeans are in Klim/BMW cost territory. Any recommendations? I like loose pants. I know RevZilla does free exchanges but pics are deceiving and was hoping to get a start in a decent direction.