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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Anthiron, Sep 2, 2017.
Because I simply don’t like either of those bikes. I owned an xr400 at the time I bought the himma.
Character, Style, Cost, Weight, and an appeal that draws comments and question everywhere my wife (has her own Himmie) and I go.
I’ve had a Dr, great bike, but I’m short, fat and old and got tired of crawling up on those bikes. I also considered an XT250. Just liked the old school vibe of the Himma
Simple, price, looks and the lack of a carburetor, 2 year unlimited mileage warranty is a plus as well.
Took the Himma in for a service this morning. Only problems i thought was an oil leak somewhere near the top of the engine and noisy tappets. The leak turned out to be a missing gasket/seal in the tappet inspection plate. Sorted. Tappets checked and within spec. Turns out there is a problem within the engine. The mechanic took it for a test ride and said it sounded like really out of adjusted tappets but louder. They have to strip the engine down to find the fault and claim under warranty. The dealer has already started to strip her down but i will be without the bike for around 2 weeks. If this happened in the Summer i would be really pithed off but as it's forecasted rain for the next 2 weeks am not too put out. No good screaming and shouting at the dealer as i would only ruin the friendship i have with the staff and would just wind me up at the same time.
My old secondhand BS3 was a lot quieter than my new BS4 but had to sale the 3 due to very high millage and getting a bit rough around the edges. Still, have the Tiger in the garage if it brightens up.
The bike has loads character, unlike Jap bikes. The purchase price, service costs, comfortable adventure bike for us shorties. 2 year warranty. What else do you need?. One thought why the post if you would never buy the bike. Your post is a bit pointless really as you've made your mind up already.
2 words.......seat height!
Speaking of seat height. I'm having trouble deciding between the regular and tall. I don't mind the stock seat other than the forward slope, and being able to plant both feet is nice. Anyone have the seat concept standard, and was it a noticable upgrade over the original? Or do you wish you had gone with the tall. I was also thinking about the original for the ability to put a cool cover on it in the summer.
for sure an upgrade over the stock seat. It's wider, firmer and allows to sit further back the way it's shaped. I am 6'4" 33" inseam and now can ride my wife's Hima with the SC standard seat without any issues (i would have chosen the tall though) whereas i felt cramped with the standard seat and my knees would hit the tank guards.
The big bore kit now has a picture, but the date is pushed to mid October
It’d Have to be after the warranty runs out for me. I wonder what that would bump the compression ratio up to.
I haven’t really decided if I need morqe power out not. More would be nice, but then I think I might miss out on some stuff that way by just blowing past it quicker.
Update on my Corbin foam DIY seat.
Ended up trimming it down a bit at the sides for my stumpy little legs and cover turned out really nice...
Ended up trimming the rear seat back by 15mm - you now sit further back than the standard seat... much more comfortable... Sort of followed the genuine Corbin dual seat lines .
The seat cover need to bed in a bit as the foam is much more dished than the photos show
Also just fitted the Givi SR9050 rack/support plate for the Himmi - The thing weighs 2.7kg... as top plate is steel not ali... - The install instrucsions are easily found on the Givi website.
Whole thing took about 20 min to fit but will re-do with stainless bolts of the right lenght as all but two seem 5/10mm to long. MAybe the top plate has to be steel for support - it has "6kg Max" in several languages on it.... but will keep an eye out for a used aluminium plate on Ebay and just drill out any extra holes needed.
I have an old white Givi E45 top box that I intend to bolt to the plate rather than use quick release as it is well worn after bouncing around on various bikes over the last 20 odd years. hardest bit will be trying to get it clean n shiny as the rest of the bike...
Happy Trails Folks
I don’t see any reason as to why the plate would have to be steel.
The 6kg Max is probably due to how it would change the handling of the bike having more weight up high and far back.
When I had Henry Crew with his desert sled, over I was talking to him about his luggage and such, he was saying the first setup had more weight then what they rack said to have it made the bike terrible to drive. So he had to move all his stuff around to change the loading.
There no luggage on in this photo, other then the stuff on the rear rack and that’s the only things he kept up there. Other then that it was the back seat or his soft bags.
I like your seat, did you just reuse the stock cover?
On a side note, I have a spare foam and cover if anyone wants it for some reason. I’m in Houston but I could ship it at someone’s expense if they wanted it.
The seat is larger than stock so did not use the original cover but managed to find a vinyl that looks simalar to stock cover - no idea on name/type for it I'm afraid. I have a "foam" shop about a mile from where I live and he stocks alll sorts of vinyl. Will see if I can find any info for you on brand/type etc next week. Paul
I already replaced my seat and I’m happy enough with it.
Yours does look good though, you did a good job, I was wondering if you reused the cover cause it looked very much like the stock material.
A couple of videos on the stalling issue and rerouting the vent pipe and one for relocating the ambient temp. sensor
Owned a KLR, looked at a DR (have also owned an XT500 and an R1200GS), and now have a Himalayan. For my current use (riding to neat places, often thousands of miles from home, often on unpaved roads), the Himma made the most sense.
The DR is a better dirt bike, I suspect—more power and suspension, less weight—but it’s got a small tank, so-so gas mileage, and “dirt bike” ergonomics (really tall, skinny seat).
The KLR has great range (~300 miles on a tank), more power and suspension than the Himalayan, a frame mounted fairing that works pretty well on the highway, but again, dirt bike ergos. In addition, it’s as heavy as the Himma (heavier if you add the crash bars needed to protect that plastic bodywork), and it carries its weight high and forward—not fun on loose gravel.
The Himalayan has adequate power and suspension for dirt road riding, reasonably good ergonomics, great fuel economy, nice balance, and is easy to outfit. It’s a very easy, confidence-inspiring bike to ride. Plus it’s got a center stand (not so great if you’re jumping over logs, but nice for loading and maintenance). And it has a cool factor that the other two don’t—as Rider magazine said, “it looks like a tool because it is one.” Next to it, the DR and KLR look like toys. Not by itself a reason to choose one bike over another, but a nice bonus.
My reasons. YMMV, of course.
Problem with top boxes isn't just weight, vibration comes in to it too, particularly if you ride dirt roads, and steel seems to resist that better than some aluminium alloys.
After a few mishaps I dont rely on the top box catch, I always bolt the box down through the base, no point in waiting on the inevitable.
The aim when loading a bike is to keep the weight down, within the wheelbase, close to the centreline and equal side to side.
Aftermarket luggage which even makes the slightest effort to do that is rare, some are offset to avoid the exhaust system and everything is located behind the rear axle and high up.
And some of these metal /double skin plastic boxes weigh more than the contents, a 40 ish litre Hepco and Becker top box would be too heavy for that Givi rack, empty!
I keep a light , cheap plastic top box for stuff like a down sleeping bag, towels and clothes and put the heavy stuff in a big Ortlieb dry bag on the rear seat, and in a well strapped on tank bag.
Would probably use a Gaint Loop if the price wasn't so ridiculous, and the Ortieb doubles as luggage if I have to fly in.
But I travel light, with just my ancient lightweight hill (trail) walking gear in case I cant find a room for the night - I put the bikes handling before having a portable shower , toilet, kitchen and lounge room on the bike!
When I was traveling the camping aspect is what I was looking for. Im an oddity where I prefer to sleep outside and would probably 99% of the time if I didn’t have a wife or live in a city, folks tend to get upset about that for some reason.
I don’t have a top box, just the RE panniers that are dented and scuffed up now due to dropping the bike as often as I shouldn’t have. I think I actually bent on the racks a bit, on the right side of the bike. It use to come on and off easy, now the little bracket flipper things done slide between the pannier rack and the rear rack.
This is what my bike looked like from May- till yesterday.
The right pannier had some clothes and my laptop. The left pannier was food stuffs(food,pot,coffee press) and a booster pack. the orange bag had my colder weather stuff (extra Gloves, bar muffs, jacket liners, sweater, long undies, etc) the green bag was my camping stuff( 2 sleeping bag, hammock, tarp, sleeping pad, camp chair) I carried a 1P tent as well on the back seat where it touches the rack. The front bag had consumeable parts in it (spark plug, brake pads, extra cables, tubes and a chain) the other side was a fuel can 5 litre. My tank bag had bug spray, sun screen, sunglasses, 2 hats(tuque and a wide brim hat), a small pull saw and then water, lots and lots of water about 4.5 litres total.
All in all I’m less than 60 pounds of weight not including the water and fuel. All the camping stuff is light weight thru hiking.
On the back seat I don’t notice the weight much, the fuel can and front bag you don’t notice at all if you take one or the other off(no balance issue) the panniers where they get further from the Center line you do notice the weights which is why they stayed lighter and balanced.
I’d like to get some soft bags, but I think I would have had to replaced my press and laptop if I had soft bags.
I didn’t have any issues anywhere that I went in the last while, with the exception of crossing a marble rock beach. It was terrible, but then some younger fellas came by on dirt bikes and were struggling as well so I didn’t feel as worthless then.
Your right about that it does, that stand seems to be the thing that catches everything. Rocks, grass, mud, shrubs and then logs very much so. It’ll slide over some what but if it catches it’ll stop you dead in your tracks.
Another Slimey Crud Run weekend, without the (official) Slimey Crud Run part. We had fun...we always do.
More on what went wrong and much less wrong here