RTW the Jamie Z Way: Central Mexico

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by Jamie Z, Nov 29, 2020.

  1. Hill Climber

    Hill Climber Long timer

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    Mexican postal system.... it's slow, really slow. One of my brothers lives full time in Mexico (mainland) and it usually takes between 5 - 9 weeks for a letter to arrive (doing some legal stuff for him here and original documents are required). Most of the letters arrive, some don't. I'd say you have a 85% chance of your letters arriving to their destination..... eventually.
    Mailing a letter from a major resort (reception) works too. If a letter has to be expedited, FedEx is pretty much on the ball.

    El Boqueron would've been pretty cool to see!
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  2. liv2day

    liv2day Life is about how you handle Plan B Supporter

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    Ha! I love it @Jamie Z...lol.

    Enjoyed the update man, thank you for it. Sucks about the dogs keeping you up all night from the night before, but good on ya for getting up and going. It's too bad that canyon was closed, that hiking trail looked fantastic.

    Knobby side down, look forward to what comes next man!
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  3. akaDigger

    akaDigger Amateur Adventurer

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    Just curious. Did you notice any unfriendly dogs this day (Monday)? I have ridden variations of this route three times. All three featured attacks by stray and or domestic dogs. One dog died as a result. I had two sprained knees from that altercation. The tiny pueblo of Concepción Carizzal had packs charging the bike.
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    My hotel in Huahuapan. Más caro, $550
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  5. falcofred

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    Jamie,
    You are braver than I, it looks like you are camping in some ones backyard. My Cocker Spaniel would bark if you camped in my backyard :lol3
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  6. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b Supporter

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    It takes a brave person to camp near your Cocker Spaniel?
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  7. falcofred

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    Oh yea, she is ferocious. She'd be barking until Jamie got out the chicken dinner, then she's warm up to him.
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  8. Jamie Z

    Jamie Z I'm serious. Supporter

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    Funny you should ask this!

    I don't recall any issues on the Monday in question, but yesterday I went off the highway into the small village of Ahuehuetitla. It's a very hilly place, and as I was descending a steep(!) city street, a bunch of dogs--about six--came running out between a couple of buildings ferociously barking. Being on a steep downhill, I just kept watching the street and modulating the brakes.

    My usual tactic for unfriendly dogs is to stop. I stop and hold out my hand. They have no idea what to do and will usually run away. I no longer advise other people do this, however. I had someone message me a year or two back to tell me that he/she tried this and the dog continued the chase and actually bit the person.
    Well... there's a pandemic.

    Thanks for the pics of your hike on that trail. Hopefully I can return during a better time and give it a go.
    I think it's clear that I checked out the area before setting up my tent. That building, I'm not sure if it's a house or some sort of business, was all shuttered. Clearly in disuse.

    Worst case, someone pulls up in the driveway and I talk to them.
  9. workerB

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    More power to you Jamie, thanks for the story and pics!
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  10. Jamie Z

    Jamie Z I'm serious. Supporter

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    Time for a vote!

    Which route tomorrow? Pick the first one or the second one.

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    Or some other suggestions?

    Got these from Kurviger. I know nothing about the roads. It's possible (likely) that some of the roads shown are closed, impassable, or extremely difficult. I'm going to go for it and see what happens.

    I'll check in the morning before I head out (probably around 9:30-10am) and go with whichever route gets more votes.

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  11. jonz

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    I'd check that 'Valle de Bravo' out, of course it's easy for me to say..
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  13. Hill Climber

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    Wish I could offer some experienced advice.
    I say flip a coin... Heads, the upper northern route. Tails, the lower southern route.
    Bring water, dinner and a bit more with you !!
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  14. ChicoProf

    ChicoProf Been here awhile

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    I have no experience that would inform a vote... but, you didn't ask that. So I say #2 - looks exciting.
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    Go up one and down the other.
    Following since the beginning.
    Wish I was down there with you.
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  16. flei

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    I've seen them and it was quite wonderful. Got there early and watched as the sun warmed them as they hung in the trees, then they flew off en mass; a beautiful sight. I'd recommend it if you get the chance.
  17. Jamie Z

    Jamie Z I'm serious. Supporter

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    A little bit of a hiccup this morning as well as a bit of maintenance and a short side trip.

    The vote was 0-0 so the first route won.

    Let's see how this goes.

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  18. NAVIGATOR

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    Both routes have lot of twisty roads and great scenery enjoy
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    I cant help but feel envious, reading thru this RR and your 07 trip is so inspiring. I hope our CA/US border opens up and allows you to follow your desired path. If you're in Saskatchewan this summer I'd buy you a beer!
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  20. red bud

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    2nd road looks more curves