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Rugged phones to use for gps on bikes.

Discussion in 'Australia' started by rossguzzi, Aug 15, 2020.

  1. Dakar Dan

    Dakar Dan Long timer

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    Older iPhone in a Lifeproof case (getting hard to find) or a newer waterproof one in a Quadlock case.

    Don’t fall for the trap of thinking you’ll never need to stop and faff with it en route again. Between cables, software, signal strength, mount and device, there’s a lot to fail in the adventure riding scenario. Less so road touring. I’ve gone back to making a rough mud map & sticking it in a zip lock bag for dirt riding.
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  2. Warin

    Warin Retired

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    Not EPIRB/PLB but Inreach-SOS .. different system and subscription must be paid for to work where as EPIRB/PLB is free once the unit is purchased.


    Yep. Marketing.
    My old phone, an S4mini, had no screen protector nor case for a while.. got drops and damaged the case edges. Still works but now has screen protector and silicon case. The S7 got the lifeproof case before I started to use it, lesson learnt, always protect the pone. Other things? 32G mini SD card is not large enough for me, need at least 64G... S7 has a 128G in it now, should be enough!

    I'd not run my phone as a GPS on the bike ... get a second thing for that if you want so you retain the phone for phone use.
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  3. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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  4. bigborett

    bigborett Hipster Supporter

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    I haven't checked the 700 yet Warin, but fairly sure it will be the same as the new Zumo XT. The InReach connection is only for the mini's and not the full size units. The one thing I was disappointed about with my new XT.
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  5. Warin

    Warin Retired

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    Zumo XT manual
    https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/web...UID-0E75C8CC-0EEF-44F5-9D11-14F64E32D247.html

    Says:

    During an emergency, you can contact the GEOS International Emergency Rescue Coordination Center (IERCC) to request help. Pressing the SOS button sends a message to the rescue coordination center, and they notify the appropriate emergency responders of your situation. You can communicate with the rescue coordination center during your emergency while you wait for help to arrive. You should only use the SOS function in a real emergency situation.

    That is not EPIRB/PLB ... as you cannot communicate with them at all. It is only Inreach that has communication with their SOS service.
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  6. bigborett

    bigborett Hipster Supporter

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    They are not a tracker/sos beacon in themselves (the XT that is), they connect to your inreach device. The XT will only connect to the new range of mini InReach devices.
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  7. bigborett

    bigborett Hipster Supporter

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    The device must be Ant compatible. You should be aware of Ant @Warin being a pushbike boy.
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  8. Warin

    Warin Retired

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    Bottom line:

    Garmin do not connect to EPIRB/PLB system (the COSPAS system).

    Some Garmins connect to the 'inreach' service. The inreach service may manually communicate to rescue services if you press the SOS button, but there is no direct automatic communication from the Garmin SOS button to the EPIRB/PLB/COSPAS system.
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  9. bigborett

    bigborett Hipster Supporter

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    Correct. Sorry didn't read Hoots post fully so missed the gist of yours.

    I do know a couple of people that have been dragged out of the shit using their Garmins though.
    The ability to communicate with the rescuers or center can save everyone time and money if its not an immediately life threatening situation.
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  10. rossguzzi

    rossguzzi 990 Adv.

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    Got to be better than my current setup.
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  11. DCrider

    DCrider Live from THE Hill

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  12. Cruz

    Cruz Lost but laughing.

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  13. neilaction

    neilaction Slightly Less Adventurous

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    Lifeproof case and an IPad :D
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  14. flinders_72

    flinders_72 Long timer

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    No need for the case if you're sticking to the road only ;)[​IMG]
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  15. rossguzzi

    rossguzzi 990 Adv.

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    Neil, we all know that its really a mirror :lol3
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  16. Woody2627

    Woody2627 Grey Wobbler

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    Looks like Neil might have an electric bike.
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  17. nazza

    nazza Trouble Supporter

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    Read through a lot of this trying to decide whether to get a gps for the new bikes or just set up one of our old Samsung phones. If I go that way what apps does everyone recommend?
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  18. Warin

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    To monitor the GPS signals the app 'GPS Status' is great. It also gives info on other sensors too.

    For a basic road/track map .. Osmand .. the free version is fine. Off line maps so you don't need any connection. Only download the state your in - getting all of Oz slows things down.

    If you can - get a otter box for your phone - makes it more rugged, and makes mounting the phone to the bike easier as you mount the otter box rather than the phone itself.
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  19. fayeslane

    fayeslane Rankest of amateurs

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    Road ID
    Fuelmaps
    Emergency+
    St John first responder
    Waze or similar
    Wiki camps
    My DR650
    VicEmergency or state equivalent
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  20. AUSSIEADV

    AUSSIEADV 2wo left foots

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    Ive been using Samsung phones for years with great success. Get a decent case like the Supcase for $40. Later years have wireless charging.

    I use an Ipad in a cheap case from Ebay and RAM mount these days as i cant see on the phone anymore.
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