Running the TAT in a 4X4?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by x32792, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. kelvis19

    kelvis19 Adventurer

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    I think I will be a little ahead of you, I will be leaving out April 27th or 28th, not sure which.
    Actually 35's aren't that big on the newer JK's. Mine came stock with 32's, 2.5 inch lift and now 35's fit great. I will be adding a winch and bumper just in case. I'm glad you're gonna be behind me, maybe you will find me if I get too stuck! :-)
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  2. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    x32792 at the wheel, front tow hooks installed. Over head basket not yet installed in this photo.

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    Interior of TAT Mobile. Previous Owner was meticulous.

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    Light Weight Rear Tail Hook Assembly (Wrangler came with a rear tow bar)
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  3. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    There will be none of this.
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  4. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    30 x 9.5 x 15 A/T tires. These are 2" taller and 1" wider than the original OEM tires for this series Wrangler. These are the tallest and widest tires I can run without a suspension lift and interference with the tire well and fender flares. These give me about 12% more rubber on the road, more sure footed handling and about 1" more in ground clearance.

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    Oversized Kamp-Rite Cot Tent, self standing, easy to set up and comes with Rain Fly and Carrying Case, $189 at Pro Bass.

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    Pre Cut 1" x 24" x 90" rigid light green foam from JoAnn's Fabric and Crafts. This is an essential element for turning the Cot Tent into something you might actually enjoy sleeping in. Without this, the Cot Tent can literally ruin your whole day.

    Have been sleeping outside in low 40's and found the Cot Tent with rigid foam and sleeping bag to be very comfortable.

    For reference, I'm 6'1" and 210 pounds.
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  5. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    Gearing up is near complete with the possible exception of a Garmin GPS navigational system. This could, however, prove to be an expensive source of frustration?

    After reading many excellent posts on this board about all things Garmin and Mac, there does not seem to be a happy solution. This means a Mac User could spend bigs bucks for a big disappointment.

    First, you need a higher end device capable of plotting tracts, then special remote area maps which are sold separately. You may also need a micro chip with enough storage to hold said maps and for best results, a Windows system to run on. People who have done all of this and more report mixed results.

    Of course, there are those who say this is the only way to fly as they gloss over the many reported difficulties (and expenses) with caveats. I suspect their true intent is to lure others to join them on the rocks by singing their Siren's songs....They may also be a whole lot smarter and more techo savvy than me?

    Haven't seen the TAT maps I ordered from Sam yet, BUT he reports the course can be run using paper maps, roll charts and an odometer....these I pretty much understand.

    Today's big Gear Up purchase was two more plastic Sterilite® storage units:

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    Four of these plastic storage units fill up the back area of a TJ series Jeep (with rear seat removed); Mini-propane bottles, single burner Pro Bass stove ($19.99), ropes and comic books in one, tools in another and so on. These should keep the load from shifting and forms a platform for a 2nd layer of whatever. AND this still leaves the overhead Kargo Master storage basket available for cot tent, shovel and hot tub.

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  6. Seth S

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    There are a few spots on the trail where a rear diff locker would make things easier. Probably not completely necessary but certainly easier.
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  7. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    With the exception of larger and wider (30 x 9.5 x 15) All Terrain tires which give me 1" more ground clearance and about 12% more rubber on the road, my little '01 TJ Wrangler is pretty much stock.

    There was some serious discussion at the local Orlando area Jeep Club if I should be granted membership or not due to the fact I lack any extreme off-road modifications, but in the end, they took my $40 bucks and gave me a Tee Shirt.
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  8. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    I have seen videos of stock 40 year old land rovers going places that fully modified Jeeps with every farkle struggle to go. So a lot of it has to do with the driver. It is easy to go down the path of modification though.


    Note: I didn't mean this post to become a Land Rover VS Jeep capability argument. ....Just trying to say that most of these vehicles are quite capable in reasonably stock form.
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  9. Jeff@TheQuadShop

    Jeff@TheQuadShop TAT survivor

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    Agreed, I haven't seen anything on the TAT that would require a locker.
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  10. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    The average driver in my local Jeep Club has a minimum of $10K in after market farkles. Some have more. The highest I've heard is over $60,000 in a fully loaded LWB Rubicon.

    As my '01 TJ sits, I have invested, including new tires, overhead basket (overhead frame was already on there when I bought the Jeep) and some pretty extensive mechanical repairs and maintenance, about what a new Ural Gear Up costs.

    I am confident my little TJ will haul my tired old grey ashes all the way to Utah and back IF I prudently avoid driving into any shoulder deep catfish ponds, trying to climb over any boulder larger than my house and exercise some discretion.

    As of this moment, I am doing this alone, so I will not be going out of my way to find trouble without a trail buddy on hand to pull me back out.
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  11. Zecatfish

    Zecatfish XTique Rider

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    x32792,
    For go the expensive garmins. You can just as well with an Lowrance XOG. About $150 new on ebay.
    You can use gpsvisulizer, or gpsbabel and google earth to plot out your trail. See my sig line for a link to using Google Earth. I will say that Mapcreate is dated and is not being updated so Garmins maps are better.
    Then convert from .kml to lowrance .usr and be right at home. It can hold 100 tracks with 9999 points each. Moe than the 276 and has a nice bright 3.5" display.

    Your doing somthing I've been thinking of too. Mostly because I know the wife and kids would be upset if I setoff on a two week journey to the rockies without them.

    Room for the whole family.
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    246k miles and ready to go almost. I'll replace the essentials first.
    Altenator, Water Pump, and belts. It is one of the best cars we've ever owned. It goes where you point it and starts everytime. :D
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  12. Jeff@TheQuadShop

    Jeff@TheQuadShop TAT survivor

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    I built an XJ in the late 90's, it was a 91 Limited edition with a ton of mods...these will make a fantastic TAT ride!

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  13. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    As a man who knowns the horrors of sharing a bathroom with a woman long term, I can confirm they are all scared spit-less you might dare go off and have a good time without them.

    The lovely Ms Suzi, my significant this-that-and-the-other, as of this moment has granted me a no-time-limit Hall Pass to run the TAT. She will be riding with me from central Florida to Brevard, NC where we will visit some friends, but after that, she is flying back home.

    Camping, bugs, dirt and dust are not really her thing, so it appears I am only a few inches away from a clean get-away....pray for me.
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  14. Zecatfish

    Zecatfish XTique Rider

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    the Mrs would have a fit if I did that to her grocery getter take the kids to baseball practice and church ride.

    On a side note. I got a parts Cherokee in the field. I've got to get this when I get home this weekend.
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    88 Comanche 4x4 LWB. its got a bad engine, but I got a nice low mileage 4.0 that needs a home. Its an 88 model too. :deal
    It will be the start for a little lifted light weight 4x4 p/u. Not enough room for all everyone but thats life.

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    One side note if $$$ are there this summer I want to do the TAT to Colorado in the Heep and then spend a week out there riding the different mountains and do Black Bear road, and visit Pikes Peak and few other things on the List. I also want to ride the Narrow Gauge to Teluride. 20 years being married and we've never taken a real vacation short of 3 day camping weekends. I'm thinking that the Heep needs a bike hauler on the back for the XTique to tag along and she can go one way and me another for a day or so.
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  15. leonphelps

    leonphelps TAT/Prudhoe Bay

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    ....how are you going to get over the trails that are single track, some of the single tracks are a bitch...or have you marked them out on the maps to avoid.
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  16. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    I've been advised by those who have run the TAT, the Jeep is good all the way to Utah via the Marshall Pass.

    The real nasty single track stuff, six foot dead falls, passages too narrow, tank traps, loose shale slopes, trail closures and the opportunity to meet the cast from Deliverance don't really get started until after you reach Utah...After that, all bets are off.

    Doctor Rock's photo rich Mobius trip ride report scared me sober about going beyond Moab in my TJ.

    After Moab, the only reasonable option would be to sell the Jeep, buy a DR400SE or WR250R, re-fit and go from there with at least two or more really experienced trail riders.

    "There are no old bold fools."
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  17. Jeff@TheQuadShop

    Jeff@TheQuadShop TAT survivor

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    There is no single track between Jellico and Moab.
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  18. RideLight

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    Hey I've got an idea. When you come up to one of these horrible death traps that no mere mortal can overcome, tap the 'ol jeeps brakes and think of a solution. It is an adventure, right?
    I wish my '06 Unlimited and I could go with you, but 2 weeks of vacation per year doesn't allow for trips like this. I will be there in spirit.
    I would like to see one of those 60k rigs make this trip. I bet they would have more trouble.

    Subscribed!!!
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  19. Seth S

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    The TAT is a great trail but not so much of a trail as you might think. You could drive a rental car for most of the route without much difficulty.
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  20. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    There is an open invitation to all regardless of age, race, gender, political affiliation or nationality to join me for as much or as little of the TAT as your schedule will allow. An extra special warm welcome will be extended to any and all Mac based GPS Geeks.

    I should be in Jellico about the first week of May...If nothing breaks lose, comes undone or rolls down hill.