Running the TAT in a 4X4?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by x32792, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. TJ Willy

    TJ Willy ADV, this, I crave.

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    Just popping in to let you know I am still following your thread. Looking good. Can't wait for the report.
  2. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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  3. x32792

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    From idea to departure date, it has taken me almost 2.5 years and I'm only going from Jellico to Utah.

    This means, in my case anyway, the time spent in Research, Planning and Preparation will be 30 times greater than my actual time spent on the TAT.

    Keep this in mind and enjoy every "obstracle" in your path.
  4. leonphelps

    leonphelps TAT/Prudhoe Bay

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    We would use the paper maps every night and plan out route and where we were stopping for camping. I always think its easier to see the BIG picture with the maps spread out on a picnic table. One other thing i'd find is a book with camp grounds listed for each state, the Bureau of Land Management has great camping sites out west. I'd stay away from the KOA sites, they basically suck. They you plot the sites along the route and find a good place to stop for the night. As you pass through the state lines, find a welcome center and grab all the maps you can, they are free and have everything marked out on them, camping, etc.

  5. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    Have just upgraded my Mac Garmin BaseCamp Software from beta v2.1.1 to v3.0.1.0.

    This upgrade allows me to toggle my routes directly from BaseCamp to Google Earth. The magenta line is my route.

    The little camera icons are actual photos taken at that location. The photos are taken at ground level and will pan around 360┬║. You can zoom in so close, you can almost see what people are having for lunch. You can also "fly" the route at about 100 feet above the ground in 3D.

    This is truly Technology Gone Wild.
  6. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    After reviewing and plotting a few of the trails I want to run in Utah, it was unanimously decided some additional last minute prep was needed to be on the safe side; radiator flush and coolant re-charge, new serpentine belt, matching 5th tire and new Monroe Sensa-Trac® shocks all around....more about the shocks below.

    Next weekend is the annual Orlando Jeep Club Camp Out and Trail Riding 101. This year it is being held in Inverness, Florida. Looking forward to this event. Will try to take and post photos of the more outrageous examples of how BIG money can be spent creating trailer queens which can't be driven on the road.

    My departure has been moved up to May 24th and I'm itching to be on the road. Ms Suzi, aka the Princess and the Pea, is very much pleased with the stock absorber upgrade. She is only going as far as NC, but surely would have reported each and every "pea" encountered on this portion of the trip. Note to you younger readers out there, "There are only two kinds of men, hen pecked and liars."

    In addition to the added comfort for Ms Suzi, the new shocks also address some side-to-side sway and diving issues....Here also read scratch, adjust and spit.

    It now seems I started out with a clean used Jeep and have finished up by building a "new" one. Still my re-built 2001 is less than half the price of the latest Calvin Klein version Wranglers and has twice the cache (cache is a fancy word for "snappy-pip.") With all due respect to Jeep owners everywhere, they stopped making "Jeeps" in 2006.

    The little yellow fellow sitting on the rear tire is a gift from my 11 year old niece. She is somewhat younger than me, but we both are big SpongeBob fans. I may take him along on the trip to remind me when to tap on the brakes and when to take those work arounds.
  7. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    What is "Snappy-Pip" a fancy word for? "Bling" or "Farkle"?
  8. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    "Snappy-Pip" is a well respected, but seldom heard technical term outside of high powered advertising circles in Miami and New York. As an example, here used in a sentence, "OMG, now that's got some snappy-pip!"

    Snappy-Pip is very much like the expression "more gooder" used in my Native Cracker.
  9. Zecatfish

    Zecatfish XTique Rider

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    http://www.gpsfiledepot.com
    You can get free topo maps for garmins.
    Users develop maps from latest available datums.
    Happy Trails and be safe.
  10. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    UT Dead Horse Point and Pucker Pass as seen in Garmin BaseCamp CityNav Map. This is one of the places I want to see when I reach Utah.

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    Same location as seen in the new Utah Only Topo Map downloaded from the link posted by Zecatfish. Big Thank You!

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    Same location as seen in Google Earth.

    BUT wait, there's more! All three of the above maps can zoom in for a much better look-see, all three maps toggle back and forth inside BaseCamp AND on Google Earth there are ground level photos to look at!

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    Ground level photo embedded in the Google Earth Map above.

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    Another ground level photo embedded in the Googl Earth Map above.

    Now, here's the rub...and there's always a rub. Ms Suzi has seen all this Technology Gone Wild and now wants to know why I have to take this trip at all? She believes I've already seen everything there is to see and thinks I should stay home with her AND save my money.

    I goin' miss her.
  11. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    Rick in Dove Creek,

    Am responding to your email here after realizing lots of good information is going unshared.

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    Vinnie in Broken Arrow has given me an Oklahoma Mud Warning west of Hwy US 81 and reports he and his friends spent 4 hours going 1 mile...Ouch. In the event there is heavy rain in this section of OK when I pass thru, I've laid in a paved SpongeBob By-Pass.

    It is also very likely the CO high country will still be closed until sometime in June. Even dropping down below CO and doing UT first may not be long enough for all the snow to clear? In order to pass some additional time in UT, I may have to fall in love, get married, become disillusioned, get a divorce and then spend weeks more in ugly litigation before going back across CO west to east. On second thought, just doing some more trails in UT might be more cost effective (also read cheaper).

    Now thinking Dead Horse Pt-Gemini, Schaffer Trail-Potash Rd, Temple Mt-Buckhorn Wash, Burr Trail-Bull Frog Creek and Hurricane-ToroWeep Loop should be plenty enough to give me a very good idea of what UT is about. With this itinerary, running Pucker Pass would mean doing Potash Rd twice, so this may not happen this trip.

    For my Home Run, I'm thinking two lane, small town America all the way. About 55-60 mph is all my old Wrangler and me want to run...go any faster and all you see is white lines. Besides, there aren't any Mom-and-Pop Diners on the interstate highway system.

    John
  12. DCZ

    DCZ Been here awhile

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    See above
  13. TomN

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    Great stuff, can't wait for pictures!
  14. AugustFalcon

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    We camped in a state campgound in Deadhorse Point State Park on our TAT trip. No showers but did have water and flush toilets. Stop at the Visitor's Center in Moab they have a list of shower places and prices, oodles of maps, campsite lists, etc., and generally really helpful folks.
  15. x32792

    x32792 Cracker American

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    In the summer of 2006, I was driving my Mid-Life-Crisis Jeep Wrangler Sport. It was a 2000 model, white with tan hard top, automatic transmission, CD player and fancy alloy wheels. You know the one...The Special Nancy Boy Edition. I bought it new, it was paid for, never been off-roaded and I changed the air in the tires religiously. I loved that car.

    There I was sitting at the stop light waiting for it to change and thinking life was grand when I was rear ended by a young man driving his girl friend's Japanese Something. He was going 35 miles an hour and later stated he didn't see me.

    When I woke up, my seat had collapsed and I was looking straight up. Me and the Wrangler both sustained frame and body damage.

    The "other" driver's Insurance Company refused to "total" my Jeep. After three months in the shop and $9,000 in repairs, I sold it the first day I got it back.

    Fortunately, I didn't lose any body parts and was not burned to death when the little Japanese Something hit my rear end bending the frame, pushing my drive train into the motor and leaving my gas tank laying in the street.

    After two and a half years of out of court legal fussing, there was a small settlement...about enough to buy me a new car.

    For me, there was physical therapy, six months in the gym everyday and 15,000 miles on a series of peddle bicycles and lots of bending and stretching.

    The blinding headaches are gone, most of my boo-boo's are healed and my balance is better. There's still a ringing in my left ear, but hey, I'm glad to be alive.....There are just so many things you can't do when you're dead.

    As part of my recovery process, I attended MSF School, passed and got my endorsement. With a real and lingering fear of being run over again, I was never able to pull the trigger and buy a motorcycle. Instead, I opted to have a little sheet metal around me in case of any future mishaps. I reasoned I'm getting older and don't mend as well as I did when younger.

    Over the past four years, one of the things that has sustained my spirit was reading Adventure Rider and dreaming of the day when I too could have great adventures. Sure, I'm not Polish and don't have big bulging muscles or a large penis like the fellows who drove across Russia, but hey, you work with what you got.

    Someone sent me a PM after reading the above and asked if anyone had been giving you a bad time for choosing a "cage" over a motorcycle?

    Actually, it's been quite the opposite. Everyone has given me nothing but support, offers to assist in anyway possible, good intel, encouragement and solid recommendations.

    I posted this Back Story to express my appreciation of AdvRider and as encouragement to others (and you know who you are).
  16. DCZ

    DCZ Been here awhile

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    Everyone has the demons - in my opinion it's not the mode of travel that makes an adventure but the fact that we seek adventure that brings us here.

    Rick
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    x32792 Cracker American

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    Friday and Saturday, I attended a trail ride and camp out sponsored by my local Jeep Club. This year, it was held in the Withlacoochee State Forest near Inverness, Florida. The forest itself is scattered throughout Hernando and Citrus counties and is declared by the World Wildlife Fund as one of the "10 Coolest Places You've Never Been in North America."

    In addition to spending time with some very nice folks, I am happy to report nothing was broken, all my equipment worked and my ride didn't flip over or overheat. There were some minor electrical problems related to powering the Garmin, but nothing catastrophic. I gave the Club's Official On-Site Electrician a six pack of Bud Lite for fixing one auxiliary power source which had gone bad, but now another is acting up and is still on the fritz.

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    Pride of the Fleet, a 1948 Willy's

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    A Trailer Queen

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    "Willy Mammoth," late model Willy's which has been stretched 12 inches, lifted and refitted with a diesel power plant and mysterious axels and drive train imported from Australia.

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    Who needs 4x4 when you have 12.5" wide tires?

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    First Mud

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    The next day, this guy never had a chance. This photo doesn't do this mud hole justice. It was 2.5-3 feet deep with a loose loamy pudding. I later had the opportunity to speak with this driver and he told me, "I think I have some mud in my arm pits." ... And no, I did not try this one.

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    Same mud hole as above from a different angle...Don't Panic, Just Go Around. The bottom of this innocent looking Mud Hole would be about the seat height of a XR650L without lowering links.

    This outing gave me a chance to find out what my little stock TJ would do with the safety of having a small army of tow vehicles at the ready to pull me out had I gotten into trouble. Thank you, Orlando Jeep Club!

    All in all, a very valuable learning experience.

    Next weekend, the adventure begins as Ms Suzi and I start heading north towards Jellico.

    This entry marks the end of the "Planning and Preparation" portion of this TAT thread.
  18. DCZ

    DCZ Been here awhile

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    Glad you had a good time - you will be amazed what your TJ is capable of. Looking forward to you getting started on the trip

    Rick
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    x32792 Cracker American

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    All packed up and ready go. The black thing in the overhead rack is my Kot Tent. Everything else pretty much fits inside including the lovely Ms Suzi who will be riding with me as far as Asheville, North Carolina.

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    Gear and equipment tucked in the back.

    We eat out tonight and leave in the morning.
  20. AugustFalcon

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    Good luck and have some fun! Its going to be a great trip. :clap