RX3S 380cc Beast Zongshen

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by The_Precious_Juice, Apr 16, 2018.

  1. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice The Virginian

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    Greetings all,

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    ZongSheng products announce RX3S(380cc)
    ZS400GY-2
    Top speed : >140
    Engine : SOHC 380cc (Double cylinder 8 valves)
    Compression ratio : 10.5:1
    Maximum power : 27/8500
    Maximum torque : 32.7/5500
    Dry weight : 185kg
    Fuel capacity : 20L
    Seat height : 790mm v
    Break : Add-on ABS
    Front tire: 100/80-19
    Rear tire : 130/70-17


    http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=19967

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  2. The_Precious_Juice

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    "More developments…there’s been a bit of minor buzz on the Internet about a new Zong with a photo or three that’s popped up in a few places. It’s the RX3S, a new test platform of a bike styled like the RX3 but with a 380cc twin cylinder engine…

    RX3SI saw the 380cc engine and a clay mockup of the RX3S the last time I was in Chongqing. It’s interesting, it’s heavy, and it’s not happening any time soon.

    Let me explain why we need to recognize a few things about the RX3S and the RX4 (the 450cc upsized version of your RX3) and Zongshen’s approach to motorcycle development. Zongshen releases information on potential new motorcycles way in advance of availability. This practice wasn’t noticed on the RX3 because nobody in America paid much attention to Zongshen (other than a few guys on ChinaRiders.net) before the RX3 hit our shores. Now, with the RX3’s world-wide popularity, everybody keeps an eye on Zongshen. Any info that Zongshen releases (and some info that they haven’t officially released) gets widespread dissemination by your friends and mine, the keyboard commandos.

    Look, here’s the deal. Zongshen recently rode a group of RX4s through China and they found the bike had problems. It’s back to the drawing board with no forecasted production date. Even if there was a production date (and there is not), I would take it with a 55-gallon drum of salt. The fact is we just don’t know when this bike will go into production. And once the RX4 finally goes into production in China, we’ll have to get a couple and take them through the EPA/CARB maze. That tacks another 6 to 9 months on to when the bikes can sell here in the US. My best guess is very late 2018 or more likely sometime in 2019, but that’s just what I called it: A guess.

    Now, regarding the RX3S’s availability, let me put it this way: The RX4 is way ahead of the RX3S in terms of design, development, and testing. I won’t even hazard a guess on when the RX3S will be available.

    These new bikes are interesting things to watch and read about. I’ve ridden prototype RX4 motorcycles in China and my feeling is that at this point the RX3 is a much better motorcycle. I’m sure the RX4 will be improved and refined by the time it goes into production, but when I rode it I knew I preferred my RX3. The RX4 is a bigger bike, and yeah, the keyboard commandos are (as always) clamoring for more displacement. But that bigger bike comes with a penalty: More weight. The production RX4 will hopefully be lighter, but as it stands today, I like my lighter RX3 better.

    Here’s the bottom line: If you’re waiting for tomorrow’s RX4 or RX3S instead of buying an RX3 today, I think you’re cheating yourself out of a lot of good riding. That’s something I’m not doing. I’m riding today. You could be, too.
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    http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=19967&page=2

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    Seems like a classic post from someone who owns a bike that is planned to be replaced.
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  3. eakins

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    Wait is that the Versys 400X :-)

    ...interesting new motor.
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    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    Kawasaki better get working or get finishing up as the case may be , on the 400 Versys.
    One thing is for sure , bigger bikes are on the way from the Chinese .
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    The_Precious_Juice The Virginian

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    This beast is bigger.

    The RX3 250 is really heavy, and so does the RX3S appear to be. Maybe close 450lbs.
    Dry weight is 407lbs.

    Is Japan pushing the envelope a little more to really rag on China?

    The Versys X 400 would be 30-50lbs lighter.
    And be 30mph more on top speed easy.


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    https://adventuremotorcycle.com/news/csc-motorcycles-rx4-rx3s-2019

    Both dual-sport motorcycles will have seat heights under 32 in., and while the RX4 seems to use a similar frame as the RX3, the tubular frame of the RX3S looks completely new. On the scales with OEM luggage systems and 5.2 Gal gas tanks, the RX3S will weigh 408 lbs and the RX4 will be 450 lbs. The parallel-twin will put out 36.7 hp, while the single surprises us at 43.5 hp. Based on our calculations, the RX4 will have a similar power-to-weight ratio as a Suzuki DRZ400S.

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    Bloody Hell!?

    43 hp and 29.5lbs of torque for the 450cc
    No way.
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    The_Precious_Juice The Virginian

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    It's been over a year.

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    Since CSC is not importing this model it's probably dead in the water for anyone's radar it even exists.
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