Sachs MadAss 125cc

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  1. Nurburgringer

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    nice video! sounds like a jet doing a fly-by :)
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  2. milwaukeemadass

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    I can't say for sure but when it had been sitting overnight and after I had wiped it all down, it was running along the bottom of the engine from the mid-line along where one of the bolts is (red arrow in pic), were it dripped from. It was rather slow. But after riding it and the engine was warm, it only took a few seconds for the drip to appear.

    On Saturday Andy at M-S said it was leaking farther up and more forward (orange arrow in pic) at the gasket and it was running down to where i was seeing it.

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    They're looking at it this morning to figure out exactly what the deal is. I'm encouraged by the response from Moto-Scoot and Bill Peirce at Cobra/Peirspeed. As soon as i hear anything I'll pass it along.
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  3. Nurburgringer

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    bummer, but hopefully an easy fix and it turns out to be an isolated case.
    God knows my other motorized vehicles (25 year old italian car and 10 year old german one in particular) leak oil prodigiously, but of course on a new machine it's not something you should have to deal with.
    Sounds like the dealer(s) are doing everything they can to get to the bottom of it and not let it tarnish the ownership experience.
    cheers
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  4. milwaukeemadass

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    Just heard back from M-S about the leak. Apparently it was small o-ring between the cylinder and the case that wasn't seated correctly during assembly.

    That's a huge load-off. :D
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    mmadass,
    Good news. Now put some miles on her and report back.
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    Believe me, I'm itching to get the bike back tomorrow after the new short Ass Pipe exhaust is installed. I have to make up as much riding time as I can.
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  7. Nurburgringer

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    MMA - you've got a PM
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  8. Nurburgringer

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    The stretch of great weather continues so took a ride over to M-S yesterday evening. Bill handed over the keys to a silver 125 with 65 miles on the clock so I could take a longer test ride than the first time, so the little lady and I buzzed around downtown and lakeshore drive for ~1/2 hour.

    2-up the 125 is still a joy to ride, as expected. Smooth pull-aways, lazy cruising at 40-45 (where my 88cc is nearing valve-float rpms), good torque throughout the range, solid ride and confident braking. The 4-sp transmission is also improved over my '49': easier to find nuetral, can downshift to 3, 2, and 1 while coasting up to a stop without engine-braking, and smother overall gearchanges.
    Really liking the push-to-cancel turn signals with new indicator lights on the dash.
    I'd still change out the mirrors immediately for bar-end ones, and the throttle has a pretty long throw that could be fixed by one of several aftermarket units but other than that it's just about perfect.
    It could easily handle a front pinion with a tooth or two more (forgot to ask what the stock one is) which would get the top speed up a few mph if that's what you're after.
    I was afraid the ride home on our 88cc would be dissapointing afterwards, but other than the extra buzziness and harsher shifting it still brings a big smile, so unless a suitcase full of money falls from the sky it'll do.
    cheers
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    I totally agree on how solid and smooth the torque is. I have yet to feel the bike struggle at all with my 6'2'', 280 lbs on its back and it's nimble as hell. This bike is perfect for people learning to ride because everything about it leaves you confident. From how it handles, the braking and the quality of the build.

    The mirrors do seem a little tight to the inside and could be pushed out a little for my taste too.

    In addition to the bike itself, I can't help but to give props to Bill Peirce at Peirspeed for being so proactive with my oil leak problem and taking the time to follow up about it. Of course the guys at M-S have been cool too and I'm lucky to have them so close by. (Trust me, I'm not throwing a plug in here for anyone and this isn't a commercial, I'm just saying.)

    I dare anyone to test ride a MA and not crave the damn thing after.
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  10. Nurburgringer

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    Hey Any Madass Owners,
    What is it like on gravel/logging roads? Lite "offroad" riding?
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  12. milwaukeemadass

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    i have yet to come across any gravel or off-road. But nearly my entire route to work is as close to off-road as a city street can get due to industrial areas, pot holes and the unfriendly WI winters effect on the streets and the stock MA handles it really well.

    @Nurburgringer - i need to check those mirrors out. That might be a good idea to invest in a pair.
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    MMA or Nurb,
    Any active dedicated MadAss forums that I can lurk on for owner's experence, mods, and info?
    Thanks
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  14. milwaukeemadass

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    i'm currently working on putting a MadAss forum together in between my FT job and other side web projects. I doubt it would really be a help to you at this point...

    http://madass.raykonline.com/forum/

    Can't say how big it will get but i have yet to start plugging away getting the word out about it to draw more users in. My apologies to ADV if by posting the link is crossing any lines.
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  15. Nurburgringer

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    cool!

    Bar - I know there are several Facebook pages dedicated to the MA also but I'm not on FB so can't say exactly what's there.
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  16. carbonrat

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    Just received my Black Madass 125 today. I drove up to Chicago last Friday to check out the bike at City Scoots. I had been reqadding about it online here for several weeks. I took a test ride and was suitably impressed. I have been looking for a motorcycle which behaves like a mountain bike for some time. This was close.

    Started assembling it tonight since I elected to have it shipped to me in the crate. I didn't want to drive around Chcicago with a trailer all weekend. Jeremy at City Scoots was great and very enthusiastic about the bike. The bike arrived in good shape. Only two questions at this point. I hope somebody can help, since I don't have a second bike to look at.

    1. The shift lever on the engine has a curvature to the bar which attaches to the engine. I'm not sure whether this is by design or it has bent in shipping. The manual pictures show it being straight but mione curves around the engine. Any help would be appreciates.

    2. How the heck do the ignition cables attach to the battery. I have been working on car for many years, but cannot intuitively see how the lugs bolt on. Do tthey bolt in from the top or the sides? Where does the nut go? Is it supposed to fit inside the battry terminal and if so, how do I force it in there?

    Any help would be appreciated. I'm sure City Scoot will help when I call them, but I thought others might have the same questions.

    Thanks

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  17. Nurburgringer

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    congrats on the new MA!

    there's a couple photos on page 1 of the stock shift pedal - they all have a curve.

    BTW - The stock pedal is pretty blah, but it's cheap and easy to install a nicer one

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CNC-FOLDING-SHIFTER-XR50-CRF50-XR-CRF-SHIFT-LEVER-SF07_W0QQitemZ310126913782QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item48350128f6&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245


    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FOLDING-SHIFTER-CRF-XR50-XR-CRF-70-SHIFT-LEVER-K-SF01_W0QQitemZ120387399091QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item1c07a5edb3&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

    I put a forged aluminum Takegawa (non folding, with rubber pad so it doesn't tear up your kicks) on:

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    sorry I don't know exactly how the battery goes in, but if you give your dealer or M-S a call they should be able to help
    cheers
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  18. Nurburgringer

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    I haven't had mine off the pavement, but there's no reason at all it wouldn't kick ass for what you're talking about.
    The stock tires are not at all suited for any off-road traction of course, but M-S has put knobbies on a couple and supposedly they ride very nicely still on the road

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  20. milwaukeemadass

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    @carbonrat - i wish i could you help you out but I haven't gotten all that far into messing with my bike to be all that sure of what I'm talking about.

    I got my MA back with the new short ass pipe exhaust and I'm really happy with it. The increase in sound level over the stock exhaust is much needed (IMO) and I love the sound - a nice throaty growl. I'm hoping to get a video of it in action and posting it soon.
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