Scooter Cannonball 2020 update

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by cdwise, Apr 14, 2019.

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Are you in for Scooter Cannonball 2020?

Poll closed Apr 28, 2019.
  1. 95-10% Of course, I’m really serious about making it from start to finish

    12.0%
  2. 75-95% I’ll be there at the start.

    8.0%
  3. 50-74% I’ll make it in 2020 work, scooter, finances permitting

    36.0%
  4. 25-49% it’s on my list and maybe 2020 will be the year.

    20.0%
  5. 10-24% vaguely interested but not probably not this year.

    20.0%
  6. 0-10% are you kidding? Those people are crazy.

    4.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. CashCow

    CashCow Rocketeer

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    If you choose to be competitive, the average speed is as fast as your scooter will go on the days where the roads allow.

    This was a Nebraska day in 2016. Straight, fast roads all day.

    On a 2007 Vespa GT.

    Bill

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  2. ride4321

    ride4321 Long timer

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    That's good to know Bill. For some reason I was under the impression we'd need to map out our route each day. If they provide gpx files I'll just go with that. I doubt I'm going to be very competitive but I won't rule it out either.:D I'm certainly not going to compete with what's showing on your gps. 6 minutes stopped time for 303 miles? :dunno
  3. cdwise

    cdwise Long timer Supporter

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    It really depends on the route what your moving average will be. On the day they did the Burr trail last cannonball I suspect your moving average for a large chunk of the day might be 30mph at best. While crossing from Dillion Colorado to our Kansas end point my moving average was over 60mph and on some legs over 75mph (heavy crosswinds in Kansas slowed most down and were extremely fatiguing more than time or distance would normally be on that leg) riding an Aprilia Sports City capable of sustaining low to mid 80s.
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  4. wbdvt

    wbdvt Been here awhile

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    I found a website, http://www.newenglandriders.org/GPS/GPS.htm, that has a whole section where a tutorial was created for Basecamp. I started into it a little and then didn't have time. Looks to be okay.
  5. CashCow

    CashCow Rocketeer

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    Basecamp works, but if you do a lot of route planning, you will find it cumbersome at best.

    I much preferred Tyre, but the even newer My Route App is even better. One click waypoint selection and it exports to your device easily.

    I prefer it enough to have paid for it.

    Bill
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  6. ride4321

    ride4321 Long timer

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    I liked Tyre but it's not available for my Mac. I used to use it on my work PC.
  7. MondayDad

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    You don't HAVE to have a GPS. You can use Google Maps and earbuds/Bluetooth as long as you download the offline maps. That's easy to do at the hotel each night. Then plot your route from one GPS checkpoint to the next (preferably on a laptop for copy/paste of GPS points) so that your "Recent.." map destinations can be quickly accessed to go from one segment to the next. That takes care of determining the fastest route (consider speed limits and the max speed on your ride: no sense going on an 80 mph route if you can only max out at 45 - take the shorter route!) and compensate for road closures/construction that may not have been an issue when the route was determined and the GPX file created. Additionally, the past organizers have sometimes included dirt or single-track pasture crossings just for (their) fun. Be sure to take a backup phone/tablet and plan for mobile charging. And don't drop your device on the road! This approach worked well for me (Bigkart) in 2016. BTW, Google Maps now allows for waypoints on mobile devices which it didn't do in 2016. That would cut down a LOT on time spent pre-mapping and loading the next section of route at each checkpoint.

    And writing the turn-by-turn instructions with segment mileage using grease pencil on the inside of the windshield is a good backup for device failure, rain, or inability to pull over at checkpoint (bridges, etc.). Reset your trip odo at each turn to compare to windshield notes so you'll not have to deal with cumulative odo error or remember mileage at milestones over a 375+ mile day. My Helix was off by 10%, so that would have been a lot of math on-the-fly.

    Bob
  8. CashCow

    CashCow Rocketeer

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    Bob is right about using a phone as a gps.

    I did this in Portugal for the few rides where we weren’t following Ken.

    It worked great.

    But I don’t think google allows multiple routes to be saved.

    Being able to start the SCR in Bar Harbor with ten days of routes already set on the Garmin makes the ride so much easier.

    Bill
  9. ride4321

    ride4321 Long timer

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    Is that the case? All the routes can be copied in Bar Harbor?
  10. cdwise

    cdwise Long timer Supporter

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    You could but I would recommend doing do ahead of time so you can get familiar with them ahead of time.
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  11. CashCow

    CashCow Rocketeer

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    Every day's routes will be posted in January or February.
    You can load them at any time between the posting date and run day.
    Or you can look for a better route between checkpoints and bonus photos and make your own route.
    Bill
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  12. Dark

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    I picked this up yesterday for the 2020 cb. This will be my 1st cb so I have a lot to
    figure out before July.
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  13. cheapeto

    cheapeto Been here awhile

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    Man this years SCB is eating into my sleep I want to ride it so badly. Stay upright all!
  14. cdwise

    cdwise Long timer Supporter

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    Registration closes Monday though unless they have actually opened up the spaces from the two who dropped out already I don't think you can actually register. If you are still interested and haven't yet registered your only option will be to buy the space of someone who has dropped out.
  15. cdwise

    cdwise Long timer Supporter

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    Registration is now closed and the list of riders is up at https://follow.scootercannonballrun.com/riders

    If decide you want to join in 2020 your only recourse now is to buy the spot of someone who has dropped out. Asswax number 100 is the only one I've seen officially declare himself out, well there is one other but I don't remember the screen name.
  16. DandyDoug

    DandyDoug Long timer Supporter

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    I'm a bit confused , I recognize some of the riders screen names but they are all listed as "Rookies" and they rode in the last CBR ??
    I did not see your name on the list , unless I missed you ??
    I wish there was some way to identify the riders with their "Real" names and where they are from.
  17. GotMojo

    GotMojo Long timer

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    Some riders may not want you to know their real name or where they come from.

    I suspect that the status field will be updated when the numbers are officially assigned. That hasn't happened yet.
  18. cdwise

    cdwise Long timer Supporter

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    I’m number 56. Same number I had in 2014 & 2016.

    Clearly there are some bugs still since it only just went live. I know some of the riders have done at least 5 previous cannonballs but I figured some of you might be interested in seeing the list.

    Mojo I suspect those rider numbers are about as official as you are going to get since that is published by an official not the one Kim had been keeping.
  19. cdwise

    cdwise Long timer Supporter

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    Looks like three more who were planning on coming from Germany have now dropped out. Looks like logistics defeated them like the guy f I'm the UK.
  20. flexfoot

    flexfoot Been here awhile

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    I am in. Never went long distances on a scooter..... guess there is always a first time. Completed a few IBR SS 1000 but this one is an entirely new experience.

    Live in N.H. about 6 hours from the start.

    Will need some ideas about getting the scooter back home.

    I guess there is always U-ship or the Federal Company.

    Steve
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