Seat height, suspension travel, and shorter riders

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    From that, I take it that a shorter person should buy a 250 with a lower seat height, and learn to ride it well enough that getting their feet on the ground isn't as much of a concern before considering a bigger bike. Makes sense.

    Could be. My concern would be how a bigger engine would affect stability and suspension setup, which is why I like the OEM approved kit option.

    Is there a less-than-400 lb twin ADV/DS bike available?
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    But again, that first part will be a compromise in suspension travel and ground clearance. There's just no reasonable way to engineer around intended use. It's the same reason rock crawlers aren't lowered with taught suspension and low profile wheels and tire. They're purpose built and that purpose can't help but directly impact design and limitations.


    If they don't have the kind of faith in themselves to learn the very basics of riding a bike built for the purpose of being ridden off pavement then they should find something else to do, sincerely. That may seem harsh but if sliding to the side to put a foot down is too much for them then the rest of what will inevitably present itself off-road , will be emotionally insurmountable or worse, dangerous to their wellbeing. I'd rather not see people do that to themselves.
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    I've no argument with any of that.
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    Versys 300

    32.1" seat height
    385 lbs wet.

    A fantastic all roads type bike with a highway capable engine , decent travel and ground clearance for fire road type riding and a nice low seat.
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    Why is what I wrote shocking to you?
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    I can see how some of the language might seem patronizing, but I've read enough of your posts that I didn't take it that way.

    I think we can all agree that it takes confidence to ride, no matter the terrain. If someone lacks that confidence, they'd better find a way to gain it through experience, education, modification of the bike, or a combination of those factors.

    That might be a more palatable way of restating what you said, but you make the call.
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    I was trying my best to come across as earnest and concerned. I certainly didn't mean to seem patronizing as that couldn't be farther from the truth. My entire point of my posts is that I truly believe people are stronger and more resilient than their fears.

    I do apologize if what I wrote seemed insulting.
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    BTW, she's 5'3" and her bike has a 37.4" seat height. Worth a watch for anyone interested in becoming more comfortable with available bikes.

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    I'm familiar. I mentioned her in Barry's thread when the seat height discussion started.

    Megan is the kind of person I'd go after as an OEM or large dealership. Work with her to sort out a lower seat height kit for a specific model, and she could promote it. She obviously knows how to ride, and has talent as a presenter.
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    I've used her vids as intros to giving people riding instructions/coaching. Not only has she bested her height limitations, but she's an absolute beast of a rider!! She spotlights why this whole conversation is far more of a mindset issue than it is one of equipment. Her videos are awesome.
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    The other side of that is that she's an outlier. Not many people could walk away from a header into a tree like she has, or toss a bike around like she does, regardless of their size. Being built double tough has its advantages.
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    :lol3

    Yeah, that's true!!

    Just thinking that is she can pull off a 37.4" seat height then just about anyone can manage something 3-4" shorter.
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    She's ... different.

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