Security for trip - How do you secure your bike - Perception vs Reality

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by Vagabond2018-GS, Feb 16, 2020.

  1. tadejk

    tadejk n00b

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    I wouldn't worry too much about the bike itself in developing (third world) countries. You should worry more about the bike in the developed world. Read few RTW stories that ended with bike theft once they returned to Europe. As others said, I would worry more about other stuff. It is really shitty if your helmet disappears 1000 kms from nearest store where you can buy another one. I carry cable with the lock, so we can lock both helmets to the bike. I have hard cases, so no problems with that... but I believe a cable with padlock would do for soft luggage. And take it off during the night.

    Oh, and I remember one guy that got his Garmin stolen from the bike in Siberian village. They brought it back in few hours. :)
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  2. Little Bike

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    Like the above said where I’ve been hearing more about bike theft is in the big European cities and the UK especially.
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  3. oneway

    oneway Tehachapi CA

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    I remember being in argentina and checking in to a small place. There was a BMW 1200 with 2 big chain locks, 1 on the front wheel and 1 on the back. I thought, man that must suck to carry all that extra stuff.
    I Left tMy key in the ignition, threw a cover over the bike and went in for the night.
    I did take a few more precautions in big cities, but there’s only so much you can do. Park your bike close to your room or tent, cover it.
    It pays to ride a cheap bike.
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  4. Jamie Z

    Jamie Z I'm serious. Supporter

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  5. Mcgee

    Mcgee Been here awhile Supporter

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    Lyndon Poskitt of "Racing to Places" did a review of an anti theft device called, MoniMoto.
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  6. RedDogAlberta

    RedDogAlberta High Plains Drifter

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    Disk lock, Kryptonite loop through wheel and shocks. Cover. Insurance.
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  7. Flashmo

    Flashmo Whatever...

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    Last thing you want to do is put a bike cover over your bike. Tells people it is valuable and you are trying to take care of it. They will want to "look behind the curtain". Better to look dirty, cheap, and homeless.

    If possible, park next to a shiny clean BMW or Harley.
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  8. shu

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    Definitely disagree here. The first thing you want to do is make your bike as invisible as possible. My bike sitting out on my driveway is visible for a long ways; covered, you don't notice it until you're 30-40 yards off.

    Then, someone has to come all the way up to it and mess with it to find out what it is. This raises their risk quite a bit, and they may just pass it by.

    .............shu
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  9. Cal

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    43 countries by moto now and have used secure parking lots when available and just the fork lock when not.
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  10. b4thenite

    b4thenite Long timer

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    Never had problems. Park your bike in secure spot, don't go to red light district, don't harass local ladies, don't taunt local bikers.
    Make sure your CC and passport are securely in your possession at all time, I mean AT ALL TIME.
    Make a mental plan to walk away if anything happens.
    Stop worrying too much, enjoy your trip.
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  11. petertakov

    petertakov Been here awhile

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    Wasting a whole minute before triggering the alarm is WAAAAAY to slow for preventing the theft in the first place with all but the sloppiest thieves. Good luck chasing them around based on a signal that updates every 1 minute at best (every 5 mins by default).
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  12. chasbmw

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    The rattier you’re and the bike look, the less likely you will be stolen from or get shaken down at Customs
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  13. djays

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  14. Back2Dirt

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    If I may extend this ‘risk’ conversation a little (if not, please suggest another thread), what do you folks do as a best practice for storing your trailer and tow vehicle for a week or more of BDR riding in North America? I’d like to do the NEBDR soon, but not sure where to leave my car/kendo’s trailer.

    Thoughts to date:
    A motel I stayed at before day 1;
    A campground, either a camping spot or a space okayed by the host
    A well patrolled spot like an airport parking lot

    what do you do?
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  15. SenorCollin

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    I've never needed to worry about this, but have seen others have reported having luck chatting with local law enforcement. They sometimes have auxiliary lots that they offer space in for a reasonable cost. Your other ideas have merit. Maybe check if there is anyone on the tent space thread near the start point that might be able to keep an eye on/store your vehicles for you.
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  16. yokesman

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    what are you telling the thief by your actions? come and get it ,or Im watching you. Most are lazy, want easy pickings. do you sit facing the bike or away, cable the wheel and fork lock even when you are in view?
    Do you look men in the eye as they walk by or watching as do get off the bike?
    It is interesting to talk to the accommodations manager as they say: we have a camera or guard,and I comment: they both sleep at night.
    Some insurance may require a police report, some countries that may take over a year? A little time, making a few delays in the process I believe are worth the effort. Sometimes you dont realize what mess you stepped in until you are there awhile. this is especially important when you are traveling with a precious other.
    stay safe and secure, sleep well, enjoy the ride.
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  17. c_m_shooter

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    I usually lock one of the safety chains to the trailer hitch with a paddlock. If the motel is cool with you parking it there, try to back it up against a solid obstical. I have had a local restaurant owner offer to let me park it at his place outside of town. He left the restaurant empty and led out to his place. This was a morning after being woke up in the middle of the night by a couple guys approaching the rig while I was sleeping on the trailer next to the bike. I'm not sure which of us was more surprised when I sat up.....
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  18. SteelB12

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    You should just ride a KLR. Nobody would steal it or any of the empties out of the milk crate.
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  19. riderjacob

    riderjacob Been here awhile

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    Do ya'll think that genuine security or visual deterrents are more important? For example, would a huge chain that looks intimidating be more effective than a cable that is stronger but less visually intimidating?
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  20. Amphib

    Amphib A mind is like a parachute....

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    Probably a mix of both. Having it secured is peace of mind for me, but the visual deterrent is most likely the actual most important part for others.

    Everything is a compromise and my cable is not very heavy, winds up into a manageable coil, and is easily strapped. Id go without if it meant dealing with a chain.

    I try to keep things practical, easy and not worry too much. Just being smart about where you park can be more important than methods of security used in some cases. There's motels I've passed on because I didn't like the layout or the looks of the clientele.

    I've traveled more without something for security than with. I haven't had a problem yet. I do always carry a cable now, buts its mostly so I don't beat myself up if something happened and I wasn't securing the bike in any way....for me as I'm getting older, regret prevention seems to be an emerging motivator. :lol3
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