SENA 50 series.

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by SaAdvRider99, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. SaAdvRider99

    SaAdvRider99 Been here awhile

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  2. alep

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    Is it waterproof or water resistant though? That’s the real question...
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    The real question is, will it ship before 2022?
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  4. Travman

    Travman Long timer Supporter

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    Ok so with the new Sena 50 we get:

    A standard version with wheel and looks like a slim version, like Cardo
    Voice prompts, like Cardo
    Better speakers, like Cardo
    Water resistant or proof? like Cardo
    Mesh 2.0, that still does not connect to other brands, useless

    What is “next generation” about the 50. They’ve equaled the competition.
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  5. lacofdfireman

    lacofdfireman Long timer Supporter

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    No thanks. The 30k was a disaster. I’ll stick with I’d tried and true PackTalk Bold with JBL Speakers. Don’t wanna be a Sena Guinea pig. Far to expensive to not work well.
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  6. Applecrate

    Applecrate Smell It First

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    I've got a technology hangover. I'm at the point where I've got too much functionality as it is, and too little patience to try to connect shit in 100 degree heat on the side of the road. I just want better sound. Let's do that next.
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  7. BOBLOV

    BOBLOV bluetooth intercom / dash cam

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    I have to say that sena is still an industry leader in innovation. I hope that the 50 series will bring us surprises rather than disappointment.
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  8. BOBLOV

    BOBLOV bluetooth intercom / dash cam

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    The sena 50 series still can't connect with other brands, I don't think it's caused by lack of technology. If you are the boss of sena, you won't open the door to let other people's chickens eat your vegetables.
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  9. dr. jones

    dr. jones Been here awhile Supporter

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    is it confirmed that sena units won't connect with other brands? or is it just kinda buggy? and are we talking all the sena models, or just those using the mesh functionality?

    i ask because i had a 20s that connected to a couple other brands without much fuss.
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  10. lacofdfireman

    lacofdfireman Long timer Supporter

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    You call Sena an Industry leader when Cardo came out with DMC Mesh way before Sena and Cardo pairs up with JBL speakers. And the Sena 30k with their version of DMC mesh has been a disaster. Have you read the threads on the 30k units. Not a lot of fans in the Sena camp right now. Maybe they will improve with the 50 series but I’m not holding my breath.
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  11. DinEW

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    Cardo doesn’t seem to be doing any better looking at the current packtalk bold thread. I personally like to see competition on the market. It will be better when Sena and Cardo realize it would be beneficial to both to make their mesh integrate with each other.
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  12. GreyThumper

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    Yup. What percent of riders use comms now? I'll bet people who are on the fence will take a chance on one brand or another if both brands decide to be mutually integrated. Imagine if Apple or Samsung or whoever decided, "Naaah, you can only call other iPhones (or insert your phone's name here)".
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  13. Mr Head

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    My Sena 20 speakers are beginning to cut out sometimes. I suspect a wire somewhere is about to fail. The unit isn't loud enough to use with ear plugs and I'm hearing impaired so, use hearing aids off the bike. I have worn them on the bike to hear instructions like at Jimmy Lewis school.

    I can't use the Sena and the hearing aids together because of the bluetooth thing. The aids are controlled through BT by the smartphone.
    And if you want to talk expensive, hearing aids are stupid money.
    I figure when the Sena fails, I'll not fix it or upgrade it, just toss it down the road. Less stuff to keep track of and I'm usually riding alone anyway.
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  14. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    I figure that pushing BT the way both companies are doing it is a lost cause. BT was never meant to be used the way are implementing it.
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    My smh10 connects to scala.
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  16. Travman

    Travman Long timer Supporter

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    Yes, through Universal Pairing. However, the dirty little secret of universal pairing is that it uses one of your phone connections not intercom to work, typically phone 2. So if you or your friend have a phone and gps paired as a second phone, you have to give up one for the universal pairing to work. If you only pair a phone, well then you’re good to go.
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    And universal pairing is distance limited so you would never see the benefits of the mesh technology.
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  18. MGG

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    Found the description for Sena 50R ... I do not see water protection in the list of features, so Cardo will get my business before the summer.



    https://www.sena.com/product/50r

    https://www.fc-moto.de/en/Sena-50R-Bluetooth-Communication-System-Double-Set

    Sena 50R Bluetooth Communication System Double Set

    We expect the product to be available as of 2020-02-17 (edited)

    Sena's new communication systems offer the next level of robust intercom connectivity through Mesh 2.0 and 5.0 Bluetooth® connectivity. An open mesh intercom function with multiple channels is a global premiere for the communication sets. At the heart of the enhanced audio experience are the redesigned HD speakers. The fast charging of the battery is now 30% faster and therefore there is no long waiting time until the next ride. Voice commands can be recognized in native languages (CHI, DEU, ENG, ESP, FRN, ITA, JAP, RUS). There is also direct access to digital assistants for iPhone and Android using voice commands such as "Hey Siri" or "Ok Google". The WiFi feature provides automatic firmware updates, as well as future surprise enhancements. A brand new mobile app gives drivers an intuitive way to get the most out of their 50S. The Sena 50R gives the driver a slim and elegant look.

    Features:
    • Mesh Intercom™ Technology to Mesh Standard 2.0
    • 9 channels in open mesh
    • long speech duration
    • with HD speakers
    • integrated SBC codec
    • multistage volume control
    • Sampling rate: max. 48 kHz (DAC)
    • Control via voice commands
    • Remote control via Bluetooth
    • Remote control (sold separately)
    • voice announcements
    • integrated FM (FM) radio with RDS AF (Radio-Data System Alternate Frequencies)
    • Fast charging function: with only 20 minutes charging time you can use up to 5 hours the Bluetooth® Intercom™ or up to 3 hours the Mesh Intercom™
    • Memory for 10 transmitters with automatic search function
    • lithium polymer battery
    • Bluetooth® 5.0
    • Headset Profile (HSP)
    • Hands-free profile (HFP)
    • extended audio output profile (A2DP)
    • Profile for remote control of audio or video devices (AVRCP)
    • Bluetooth® Intercom™ up to 4-way communication
    • Mesh Intercom™: Communication with unlimited number of drivers
    Specifications:
    • Talk time Bluetooth® Intercom™: 13 hours
    • Talk time Mesh Intercom™: 8 hours
    • Size of HD speakers: 40 mm - thickness 6.8 mm
    • Dimensions main module: approx. 102 mm x 56 mm x 27 mm
    • Microphone length: 190 mm
    • Module weight: 61 g
    • integrated FM (FM) radio with RDS AF (Radio-Data System Alternate Frequencies)
    • Radio region: worldwide
    • Frequency range: 76 ~ 108MHz
    • Advanced Noise Control™
    • Charging time: 1 hour
    • USB-C port
    • Bluetooth® Intercom™: Range up to 2 km in open terrain
    • Mesh Intercom™: Range up to 2 km in open terrain (can be extended up to 8 km if at least 6 riders are connected)
    Contents:

    • 2x Sena 50S Main unit
    • Universal helmet clamp
    • wired bracket microphones
    • wired microphones
    • microphone sponges
    • adhesive holder
    • 1 pair of standard speakers
    • 2 pair of HD speakers
    • velcro straps for attaching the speakers
    • velcro straps for attaching the bracket microphone
    • velcro straps for attaching the wired microphone
    • holder for bracket microphone
    • velcro straps for the holder
    • USB charging and data cable (micro USB)
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  19. ssilliman

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    model of JBL's
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  20. DFWKen

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    My four friends and I were guinea pigs for the first Sena 20S units that hit the USA. They came just in time for a 2 week motorcycle camping trip. Our experience was awful. Drumbeat popping, no music if more than 2 friends connects, dropping out, turning off, . . . you name it, we suffered through it. After 2-1/2 years, we all sold our 20S units on eBay and purchased PackTalk. Oh what a relief it was!
    But now, we have a dilemma. We ride Harleys and all of us have upgraded to 2019 or later. The Harley has a WHIM (bluetooth device). But our PackTalks won't connect to it. One has to purchase the Harley-branded Sena 30K . . . the only device that will work with Harley properly.
    I've messaged, called, emailed, etc. Scala, "Are y'all going to produce a Harley-branded unit that will work with WHIM? Crickets chirping in the silence.

    Now, Sena is coming out with the 50R and S. And I predict a Harley-branded version of it.
    The dilemma is: Do we scrap our beloved PackTalks that serve us so well and go back to Sena if they have a Harley-branded offering.
    We're waiting to see what Sena does.
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