My 805 dropped me on a gravel rd twice last summer, 2nd time caught my leg under my left bag and broke it. Slipped down once earler on a right hand curve. I will not ever buy another 805 due to the lack of side grip. (Does pretty well on the pavement). I currently have gone back to MEFO Super Explorer on the rear and either a 606 or TR8 on the front. Tractionator Adventure's look good also. I've run 1 set of K60's. Front doesn't have enough knobs, rear is like plastic: scary on the paved twistys.