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silent hektik problem

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by franci rebo, May 30, 2013.

  1. franci rebo

    franci rebo n00b

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    Hi at all.
    I'm Francesco from Italy band i'm a proudly the owner of a R 100 GS PD with 140kkm.

    Last moth, the original generator failed and so, i purchased the silent hektik generator kit.

    I have a problem with the silent hektik alternator/controller. I've purchased it last week but, during the mounting the lima controller was burned the plus wire band now the new controller is total failed.... After only two minute with running engine.

    My questions is: there is anyone who have installed this kit and suggest me a photo with the correct cabled wire?


    In order, there is 6 pin:
    -3 wires black from the alternator.
    -1 minus --> wire cable from chassis/frame
    -1 generator lamp --> a deep blue wire from the original moto two pin (when i cable this wire the generator light goes on) it is correct i suppose.
    - the last one, the plus battery, i was cabled at at wire with 0volt when the key is off and 12,40 volt when the key goes on.

    Where i do the mistake?

    Sorry for my bad english. I'm studing english after 9 hours of work !!

    Thank you very much.
    Francesco from Italy.
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  2. Rhinorear

    Rhinorear Member Team Tarded

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    Fellow PD owner here.

    Sorry got nothing for you on the gen, but don't dog your English. It's a lot better than my Italian.

    You got your point across just fine.

    Good luck!
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  3. Houseoffubar

    Houseoffubar HoFmetalworks.com

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    Sorry I can't help, but someone here will. In the meantime....Welcome!:freaky
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  4. RGregor

    RGregor Been here awhile

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    Hello Francesco,

    I've been running this alternator for two years now without problems.
    Did you install the cables in that order? Then it's wrong.
    The mounting instructions say something different.
    From left to the right:
    - grau: generator lamp
    - blau: Minus to battery
    - gelb/schwarz: one phase
    - gelb/schwarz: one phase
    - gelb/schwarz: one phase
    - rot: +12V

    Best regards

    Rudi
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  5. franci rebo

    franci rebo n00b

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    Hello airhead adv riders !!

    In attachment the my wiring scheme and my moto !! I think it is correct because it is your same order Rudi. I have fear to purchase another controller and burn it one more time.

    The plus, is under a key or it will be connected directly to the plus of battery ?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/96726814@N04/8894166531/

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/96726814@N04/8894771498/

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/96726814@N04/8894151141/

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/96726814@N04/8894148133/
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  6. franci rebo

    franci rebo n00b

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    Hello airheads adv rider !!

    Thanks for your answer.

    Rudi, i'm sure to have wired the controller exactly but i don't know what is wrong.

    See the link below. Is it the wiring scheme of the my controller. What's wrong for you ?

    I've fear to burn another controller if i don't find the mistake.


    http://www.flickr.com/photos/96726814@N04/8894148133/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/96726814@N04/8894771498/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/96726814@N04/8894151141/

    And this is my airheads during a trip in Andalusia last year.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/96726814@N04/8894166531/

    Francesco.
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  7. RGregor

    RGregor Been here awhile

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    Hello Francesco!

    Now, what's definitely not correct is your first pin,
    - rot: +12V

    The manual says to connect it to the battery, not to a switched 12V cable.
    I connected it to the starter, where the thick cable from the battery is connected to.

    The rest seems to be OK.

    Best regards,

    Rudi
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  8. franci rebo

    franci rebo n00b

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    Thanks rudy very much.

    Now I understand !! but i don't now why the controller was failed...

    Is it possible to connect the rot +12v at plus of the starter or directly at the plus of the battery ? Without a fuse ?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
    But, if is it so, the controller is always connected and turned on. Is it correct ?<o:p></o:p>
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    Now, if I connected the controller at the plus of battery there is an abnormal current absorption and the controller in a few second is very hot. Perhaps because my controller is totally failed ?

    Francesco<o:p></o:p>
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  9. RGregor

    RGregor Been here awhile

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    Hello Francesco,

    yes, the controller will be connected permanently to the battery (like the original diode board).
    And the manual says it will draw a constant current of 4mA when the engine is not running.
    The manual also says that a fuse between battery and controller or a loose contact may lead to complete failure of the controller.
    Which may be the case here as you did exactly what the manual said not to do (when we regard your switched +12V as a loose contact).

    In normal operation the controller should not get too hot, when reaching 100° it will switch off automatically.

    It's hard to provide a diagnose via internet but I'd say your controller is damaged.

    Best regards

    Rudi
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  10. franci rebo

    franci rebo n00b

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    Thank you very much rudi for your interesting.

    So, i made a very big mistake.

    I will send a new message when i will receive the new controller from silent hektik.

    Francesco.
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  11. franci rebo

    franci rebo n00b

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    The new conttoller was arrived and it works fine.
    thanks to all, to silent hektik for the quick delivery and the big discount and to you.

    Now the GS is coming back for ride many thousand of miles !!

    Have a good day.

    Francesco.
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  12. franci rebo

    franci rebo n00b

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    Another little problem.

    FIRST: I did't mount only the silent hektik generator but i mounted the generator with the power ignition box ?

    Now, the bike runs great, but the button to stop the engine will stop only the RPM indicator and not the engine ? Where is for you the problem ?

    Do you have any ideas ?

    I don't understand why a did the another mistake.

    Thank you.

    Francesco Reboldi
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  13. RGregor

    RGregor Been here awhile

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    Hello Francesco,

    the problem may be that you're not an electrician.
    Or that you don't have an installation instruction that you understand clearly.
    Please provide info about your wiring, then I can hopefully tell you what's wrong.
    First idea: you connected the ignition to battery plus, not to switched plus.

    Best regards

    Rudi
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  14. franci rebo

    franci rebo n00b

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    Hello Rudi.

    yes, I'm not an electrician, unfortunately i say !!

    Now, I'm not sure to have installed it correctly and so, on next Monday, i will check it with my mechanic !!

    I will send you a msg when i will check this thing.
    Thank you very much, rudi for your answer.

    Francesco.
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