SmugMug has purchased Flickr

Discussion in 'Ask Baldy, Blame Cannonshot' started by HardWorkingDog, Apr 21, 2018.

  1. HardWorkingDog

    HardWorkingDog Harvey Mushman

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    Seems like a great thing for all of us photo-posting advriders. Nice move, SmugMug!

    That is all.
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  2. DC2wheels

    DC2wheels Castle Anthrax troll

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    Yeah- terrific. :dirtdog

    So- the $$ that I just paid for my Flickr "pro" account goes where?

    and now I get to pay $48/yr (one time charge) or $72/yr (monthly payment)

    Double or triple what I'm spending now.

    and these charges won't be increasing? :oscar
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  3. jon_l

    jon_l Long timer

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    Who knows what the change will mean longer term. Flickr has been ignored by Yahoo for a long time and could use some TLC.

    According to the FAQ, we shouldn’t expect significant changes in the short term to our free or Pro accounts. https://www.smugmug.com/together/faq
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  4. HardWorkingDog

    HardWorkingDog Harvey Mushman

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    Just thinking out loud as I have zero inside knowledge of any of the goings-on with these 2 companies...........but if you've got enough invested (invested as in time/effort/need/value) in a photo hosting service to have a Pro account, who would you more trust: SmugMug, a company owned and run by people whose names we know, who are photographers at heart, and who clearly know what they are doing; or Flickr, an orphaned service now several corporate moves beyond the photographers who started the service, owned by some faceless entity called Oath, which is a conglomeration of AOL and Verizon (AOL? isn't that company dead?), which is only concerned with the next quarter's balance sheet?

    Up until 2 days ago, Flickr was another PhotoBucket in the making, seems to me.
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  5. MikeyT

    MikeyT not an aerospace engineer :lol3

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    And Oath has sucked up my Yahoo email, which pretty much sucked anyway. I think I will be deleting that account.

    Edit: I just deleted that account.
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  6. HardWorkingDog

    HardWorkingDog Harvey Mushman

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    This morning I found an email from Flickr announcing the acquisition by SmugMug.

    "Found" because Yahoo's email system had marked it as spam, and hid it in the spam folder... Nice move, Oath.
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  7. Andrew

    Andrew Optimus Primer Super Moderator

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    Ha, mine went to spam, too. What morons the Verizon/Oath team are.

    I have both a Fliickr and SmugAccount, and will continue that way. I like the Fliickr photostream... but prefer the handling of galleries and albums at SmugMug. As well as the printing service. It's going to be interesting to follow, but this is clearly a welcome thing for Flickr.
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    jon_l Long timer

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    Weird, I am getting emails from Flickr about the acquisition to accounts with no connection to Flickr, like my work address. I don’t mind them emailing my Yahoo address. Makes me wonder how they acquired the business address.

    No big deal, as I will flag it as SPAM, so I don’t see them again.
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  9. HardWorkingDog

    HardWorkingDog Harvey Mushman

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    I got another email today to another email address--it's used as a backup or recovery email for my yahoo account. Maybe that's the source?
    I got another email today to another email address of mine as well--it's used as a backup or recovery email for my yahoo account. Maybe that's the source?
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  10. GSequoia

    GSequoia I know a few things about radios...

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    If I used a photo host I'd use SmugMug hand down but years ago I decided to roll my own so I wouldn't be hostage to any company merger. It helps that I'm technically minded and have a web hosting relationship.
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  11. jon_l

    jon_l Long timer

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    Unlikely, but I’ll check. I would normally have given a personal Gmail account as backup. My Flickr account predates my current employment.

    _________ EDIT _________

    I checked - the backup address is Gmail. The only explanation I can think of is that I may have used the work account to email a photo to my Flickr, and they saved it.
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  12. Baldy

    Baldy Founder of ADV Administrator

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    Pretty freaky for me to have cofounded SmugMug, worked there 13.5 years and all I ever heard about is you need to be free like Flickr because no one will pay on the Internet. And then to find out our model was so much better that Photobucket is near death and Flickr got bought by SmugMug.
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  13. ausfahrt

    ausfahrt mach schnell

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    I started using Smugmug shortly after I discovered this site about ten years ago and I now have other family members using it too. Hell, my 80yo Aunt in Germany emailed me a couple of months ago after my wife and I returned from a short vacation and berated me because I had not uploaded our pics to Smugmug fast enough.:D

    On another note, I have been slowly scanning old family photos from the 50's through the 90's and uploading them to a gallery that I have named Vintage. A few weeks ago I realized that I had double scanned about a dozen pictures and in the process of deleting the duplicates I accidentally deleted the WHOLE GALLERY! Many hours of work down the drain.:baldy

    My wife suggested that I email Smugmug to see if they could retrieve the gallery and within a couple of hours I had my "vintage" gallery back. I'm not trying to be a cheerleader here but I feel that as a paying customer that I am more valued than just a free user.
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  14. Throttlemeister

    Throttlemeister Long timer

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    Sole reason I went with smumug back circa 2007 was because Baldy was/is tied into it.

    ADV is/still can be the greatest ad free forum on the inter webs, changed my life for the better. Long Live ADV! And smugmug too or a shit ton of my photo links will die :(
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  15. Solarbronco

    Solarbronco Long timer

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    I still use Smugmug and yes, signed up because of @Baldy and the hours of recreation he has provided me on this site. Their customer service is the best, questions answered quickly. I use their Gallery software as a Slideshow on the forums that I own, displaying member's bikes.
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  16. Bill Harris

    Bill Harris Confirmed Curmudgeon

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    Good news, I guess. Smugmug has always been first class. And Flicker has been floundering for a while.
    I've not checked my SM in a few weeks, I've been transferring things to a new laptop and have been off on a tangent.
    I'll go and check in tomorrow. .
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  17. Solarbronco

    Solarbronco Long timer

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    I look forward to what Cake is gonna morph into someday. Your track record is all positive growth.
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  18. Baldy

    Baldy Founder of ADV Administrator

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    Thanks! The hard part is getting critical mass. That was hard with ADV and SmugMug too.
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  19. Solarbronco

    Solarbronco Long timer

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    I have smaller bike and college sports forums and I share alot of my forum stuff on the usual FB and Twitter because so many of our members prefer those methods and I get to keep their attention and bring em back by sharing the most interesting forum posts.

    But as a forum admin, myself and many others absolutely detest the integration with Facebook (or lack thereof) , the ever changing policies that really only benefit FB and the inability to allow easy facebook posts being shared back on forums. Facebook also does nothing for SEO and posts shared there do not show up in google search results. Reddit, on the other hand.. Im shocked how fast reddit posts and subs show up in Google search results.

    I would propose for Cake being a friend of independent website and forum admins for a while. Partner up with those who run good clean and well managed websites/forums and allow their posts to have "Do Follow" links back their websites. Allow easy embed integration, back and forth of content. I know of many good admins who have good content to share, who just detest FB. Reddit is better, but we are waiting for something else.

    And that is the weak point of FB that some smart new social media outfit will go after someday. Facebook is the enemy of admins/publishers because FB just wants to rule the world and keep everything. I think Cake could be the "Hub" of everything interesting that web admins have to share. And then their visitors and members would follow and then take over. Let some select web/forum admins be kind of the pied pipers sending traffic to Cake.

    Embracing "Do follow" links for select website admins within their posts, and then carefully picking the websites you allow that for in the first year or two, that would turbo charge Cake. As a forum admin, I would be feeding our bike "tech tips" and pics daily and often on Cake, and sharing Cake embeds back on the forums. If it was easy. Some Rest API integration would make it even better. There are thousands of people like me, you were once one back when ADV rider was new.

    Reddit is growing leaps and bounds, because it is the hub for everything interesting. Many web admins like myself have subs on there where we share cool posts from our members, and have "do follow" links in our subs side bars. The subs and my forums send tons of traffic back and forth.

    Maybe Cake could be somewhere between FB/Reddit, but with a strong flair for photos and helpful posts?



    But then again, you may have ten thousand reasons why that is a bad idea. :yum If so, please excuse my enthusiastic amateurism. I just have a strong desire for a new social media platform that embraces me and people like me. There are alot of us.
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  20. Solarbronco

    Solarbronco Long timer

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    Also @Baldy as an FYI, someone started an ADV Rider group on Facebook that thousands of people have joined and most all of them think it is associated with this website. I thought it was associated with this website. Recently I posted and asked if it was and many of us determined that it wasn't, at least 100 voiced our displeasure and then wham, the thread on that group of course disappeared. Many of us left that FB group right away, but only the ones who saw that thread before it was deleted. Maybe you or a moderator might consider posting a warning here that ADV rider is only on advrider.com. There are thousands of people that think that you admin that FB group and someone is using your brand.
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